It was a joke...I have nothing against any religion....believe me faith has gotten me through all kinds of issues. I believe but have questions. ..blame it on my Jesuit education in critical thinking and life. Still pretty Catholic but sometimes I waver....so hope I didnt ruffle any feathers. Still explain my two hard right good friends who carry a bible in one hand and gun in the other. Somehow the message of love thy neighbor gets lost in their position.
Jaime Solorza On May 27, 2015 9:36 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote: > Getting into the middle of conversations without reading the whole chain > is dangerous but ignorance never stopped me. > *enlightened - *having or showing a rational, modern, and well-informed > outlook. > I don't think being religious disqualifies you from being enlightened. > Don't get me wrong, I am not offended, I just differ in opinion that > more enlightenment means less religion. I know plenty of people who meet > all of the above and are additionally, quite religious. > > And of course, during this discourse, if I have typed something that has > offended you I genuinely don't care. > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Well Utah isnt alone. Most central and east Texas is "below" the bible >> belt if you know what I mean, nudge nudge...west Texas a bit more >> enlightened...(ducking under my hard hat)...mid 1990s while installing >> antennas on a tower for Cedar Hill ISD I radioed down ask which campus I >> was shooting at >> ..." the one next to white church steeple. ..." " ahem...I count >> 123456789..10 steeples just in front.." and I think they were all First >> Baptist Churches! !!! >> >> Jaime Solorza >> On May 27, 2015 8:04 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The “Paint Your Wagon” plan just does not work. >>> >>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>> >>> Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter. >>> >>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:05 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>> >>> >>> LOL! >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On May 26, 2015 9:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You guys are a riot and I know God is laughing. .hell He made the >>>> duckbill platypus...now thats funny. We had on business client install a >>>> ptp from his business to his friends house. They went from 6 users to >>>> 15....it showed up on cpe dhcp list and speeds slowed down. I throttled >>>> them to 1mbps after two calls from us. He called to complain. .then >>>> threatened to cancel. We fired him and shut down LAN port. He called me a >>>> few choice words...oh well...next...I should have asked if I could use his >>>> wife for a few days.... >>>> >>>> Jaime Solorza >>>> On May 26, 2015 6:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sharing salvation is against the AUP and grounds for termination. >>>>> >>>>> ;) >>>>> >>>>> Josh Reynolds >>>>> CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com >>>>> >>>>> On 05/26/2015 04:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Their product is eternal salvation. I wonder if we could bundle >>>>> internet with that? >>>>> Speaking of that, what does federal code say about sharing salvation? >>>>> I bet somewhere there's a politician trying to calculate a tax on it. >>>>> On May 26, 2015 4:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Those missions also develop a skill at knocking on doors and >>>>>> selling an idea or a product. Leading to later in life becoming >>>>>> politicians or starting alarm companies. But I digress. >>>>>> >>>>>> I still remember living in Buenos Aires for 2 years as a kid, and 2 >>>>>> young Mormons knocked on our door. Turns out they didn’t know how to >>>>>> give >>>>>> their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* TJ Trout <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>>> >>>>>> They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good >>>>>> will... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> But don’t they also vow to help the less fortunate? If they had >>>>>>> more food on the table than they could eat, wouldn’t they share with >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> down-on-their-luck relative and neighbors? Well, they have more >>>>>>> Internet >>>>>>> than they can use (how much Internet can you use if you don’t watch >>>>>>> porn?) >>>>>>> So why waste the excess Internet when others are in need? Does >>>>>>> McDonalds Arctic Circle stop you from taking a doggie bag and >>>>>>> giving your uneaten fries to the homeless? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you run a coax to the neighbors to use DirecTV or Comcast, >>>>>>> they will call it “theft of service”. Criminal theft of service. >>>>>>> Federal >>>>>>> code specifically speaks to this. Just piggybacking on the same idea >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the verbiage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TWC says: >>>>>>> It is illegal not only to steal cable services but also to assist >>>>>>> others to steal cable services. In fact, federal law provides for >>>>>>> criminal >>>>>>> penalties and civil remedies against people who willfully assist others >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> steal cable services. Such assistance can take the form of distributing >>>>>>> "pirate" cable television descrambling equipment, assisting others to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> unauthorized connections to cable systems, promoting the free use of >>>>>>> one's >>>>>>> wireless broadband network, or assisting others to hack into their >>>>>>> modems >>>>>>> and uncap them. Federal statutes prohibit the assistance of theft of >>>>>>> services offered over a cable system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And it appears to be called “theft of service” if it is unwanted: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/man-charged-with-theft-of-services-for-using-free-wifi-at-coffee-shop-in-for-a-brewed-awakening/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as the LDS folks go, it is not intended to scare them, it is >>>>>>> intended to trigger a guilty conscience. They vow to be honest. This >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> intended to remind themthat this is not an honest behavior. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:03 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not for me. I would avoid the whole theft of service approach. >>>>>>> I think you are on shaky legal ground, plus it sounds lame unless LDS >>>>>>> folks >>>>>>> really are easily scared. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Say it is against the Terms of Service they agreed to, and will >>>>>>> result in disconnection of service. That doesn’t mean it is a crime. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The better approach is probably that unsecured WiFi lets anyone >>>>>>> within range capture everything you transmit without encryption, allows >>>>>>> them access to your network and router on the trusted side of your >>>>>>> firewall >>>>>>> making it much easier for hackers, and as you mentioned could cause law >>>>>>> enforcement to blame you for bad things someone else did on the Internet >>>>>>> via your IP address. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:39 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brett, Ken does this wording work better? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5) Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead of >>>>>>> purchasing service for their own house is a crime called “Theft of >>>>>>> Service”. You are collaborating in this theft and jeopardizing your own >>>>>>> service as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >
