Well Utah isnt alone. Most central and east Texas is "below" the bible belt if you know what I mean, nudge nudge...west Texas a bit more enlightened...(ducking under my hard hat)...mid 1990s while installing antennas on a tower for Cedar Hill ISD I radioed down ask which campus I was shooting at ..." the one next to white church steeple. ..." " ahem...I count 123456789..10 steeples just in front.." and I think they were all First Baptist Churches! !!!
Jaime Solorza On May 27, 2015 8:04 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > The “Paint Your Wagon” plan just does not work. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter > > Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter. > > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:05 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter > > > LOL! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On May 26, 2015 9:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> You guys are a riot and I know God is laughing. .hell He made the >> duckbill platypus...now thats funny. We had on business client install a >> ptp from his business to his friends house. They went from 6 users to >> 15....it showed up on cpe dhcp list and speeds slowed down. I throttled >> them to 1mbps after two calls from us. He called to complain. .then >> threatened to cancel. We fired him and shut down LAN port. He called me a >> few choice words...oh well...next...I should have asked if I could use his >> wife for a few days.... >> >> Jaime Solorza >> On May 26, 2015 6:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote: >> >>> Sharing salvation is against the AUP and grounds for termination. >>> >>> ;) >>> >>> Josh Reynolds >>> CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com >>> >>> On 05/26/2015 04:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >>> >>> Their product is eternal salvation. I wonder if we could bundle internet >>> with that? >>> Speaking of that, what does federal code say about sharing salvation? I >>> bet somewhere there's a politician trying to calculate a tax on it. >>> On May 26, 2015 4:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Those missions also develop a skill at knocking on doors and selling >>>> an idea or a product. Leading to later in life becoming politicians or >>>> starting alarm companies. But I digress. >>>> >>>> I still remember living in Buenos Aires for 2 years as a kid, and 2 >>>> young Mormons knocked on our door. Turns out they didn’t know how to give >>>> their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>> >>>> They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good will... >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But don’t they also vow to help the less fortunate? If they had >>>>> more food on the table than they could eat, wouldn’t they share with their >>>>> down-on-their-luck relative and neighbors? Well, they have more Internet >>>>> than they can use (how much Internet can you use if you don’t watch porn?) >>>>> So why waste the excess Internet when others are in need? Does >>>>> McDonalds Arctic Circle stop you from taking a doggie bag and giving >>>>> your uneaten fries to the homeless? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>> >>>>> If you run a coax to the neighbors to use DirecTV or Comcast, they >>>>> will call it “theft of service”. Criminal theft of service. Federal code >>>>> specifically speaks to this. Just piggybacking on the same idea with the >>>>> verbiage. >>>>> >>>>> TWC says: >>>>> It is illegal not only to steal cable services but also to assist >>>>> others to steal cable services. In fact, federal law provides for criminal >>>>> penalties and civil remedies against people who willfully assist others to >>>>> steal cable services. Such assistance can take the form of distributing >>>>> "pirate" cable television descrambling equipment, assisting others to make >>>>> unauthorized connections to cable systems, promoting the free use of one's >>>>> wireless broadband network, or assisting others to hack into their modems >>>>> and uncap them. Federal statutes prohibit the assistance of theft of >>>>> services offered over a cable system. >>>>> >>>>> And it appears to be called “theft of service” if it is unwanted: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/man-charged-with-theft-of-services-for-using-free-wifi-at-coffee-shop-in-for-a-brewed-awakening/ >>>>> >>>>> As far as the LDS folks go, it is not intended to scare them, it is >>>>> intended to trigger a guilty conscience. They vow to be honest. This is >>>>> intended to remind themthat this is not an honest behavior. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:03 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>> >>>>> Not for me. I would avoid the whole theft of service approach. I >>>>> think you are on shaky legal ground, plus it sounds lame unless LDS folks >>>>> really are easily scared. >>>>> >>>>> Say it is against the Terms of Service they agreed to, and will result >>>>> in disconnection of service. That doesn’t mean it is a crime. >>>>> >>>>> The better approach is probably that unsecured WiFi lets anyone within >>>>> range capture everything you transmit without encryption, allows them >>>>> access to your network and router on the trusted side of your firewall >>>>> making it much easier for hackers, and as you mentioned could cause law >>>>> enforcement to blame you for bad things someone else did on the Internet >>>>> via your IP address. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:39 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter >>>>> >>>>> Brett, Ken does this wording work better? >>>>> >>>>> 5) Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead of >>>>> purchasing service for their own house is a crime called “Theft of >>>>> Service”. You are collaborating in this theft and jeopardizing your own >>>>> service as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>
