For my customers that want me to sell them or manage their solution I charge an extra $25 install fee and $5/mo. I use edgerouters as the router and an airport express in bridge mode for the wireless. I can throw on as many of the airports as needed to get the job done for an extra fee.
It works really well. I haven't had any customer complaint with it. They don't have to power cycle anything ever either. I buy the airport express in bulk refurbished direct from Apple. If they don't have them refurbished I just buy new, but that hasn't happened yet. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote: > > This is my biggest gripe right now. > > The more internet you provide to them, the worse this problem is. > > I think my contractors are selling mid-range $100 linksys routers. > I’m not sure that’s the best thing. > > I too need to find a handful of routers that really get the job done right. > > I’ve noticed the Apple routers tend to be pretty good, especially if they > have Apple Ecosystem/devices. > And apple extenders seem to work better with their apple environment and are > way easy for the customer to set up. > > Other than Apple, I usually recommend a router with external antennas. > And TRY to get our people to NOT install the routers in the basement under > all the metal ducting, lol! > > Ideally they are installed on the main floor in a somewhat central location. > > What I am considering is selling a NON-wireless router for our end point > inside the house near the clustered wiring. > Then programming any router they get in BRIDGE mode. > > I still don’t like doing that because the router features are something most > of these people want anyways. > > But with my speeds I would almost just rather make sure they have a wired > Gigabit Ethernet router that I can manage and I know is capable, then let > them buy however many wireless routers they need to fill in gaps all over > their house (or, preferably, ONE powerful wireless router). > > I just don’t want to be stuck changing port forwarding crap etc. > > What I really wish was that a separate company would do this for a one time, > or monthly charge and handle all their router woes. > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 11:39 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? > > Thanks for the input guys. > > I was mostly looking at what to recommend. I'd rather help on occasion, but > my responsibility ends at the CAT5 coming out of the POE. > > I've been bouncing around the idea of a $5 a month managed RB951 2HnD or > something. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Justin Wilson - MTIN > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers? > > My take on this is you have to look at what supporting a customer router > costs you in support and service calls. We have several clients who are > doing one of a couple things. > > Some are selling a managed router service for $X a month. This is typically > a Mikrotik the ISP has access to. The ISP sets up the wireless, manages the > router, and other such functions. This allows for a reference point on the > customer side for testing, etc. > > The other way to approach this is if you don’t want mess with router > configuration some folks are including a “modem” that is essentially a hAP or > 750. This is just in bridge mode or is the PPPOE client. The customer then > is free to plug in their own router if they so desire, but you still have a > reference point from the customer side. If you need a customer to bypass > their router you simply ask them to plug into port5 or whatever on your > “modem”. That port can be setup to do DHCP or whatever. > > You have to look at how much support consumer routers is costing you. Many > folks look at the cost of the routers and the cost to install them or replace > them. But if it cuts your support calls by 30% that might mean the > difference between hiring another person, or other “soft” costs. > > > Justin Wilson > j...@mtin.net > > --- > http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO > xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth > > http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman > Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > > On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote: > > Are there any consumer routers that don't suck these days? > > I used to recommend Linksys/Cisco, but since the Belkin buyout quality seems > to be going down. They jink with teh firewall and I can't block specific > outgoing traffic, can't remote admin anymore, etc... >
