Just to be clear, thanks for confirming what I already thought, they all 
suck... lol


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Glen Waldrop 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?


  Thanks for the input guys.

  I was mostly looking at what to recommend. I'd rather help on occasion, but 
my responsibility ends at the CAT5 coming out of the POE.

  I've been bouncing around the idea of a $5 a month managed RB951 2HnD or 
something. 


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Justin Wilson - MTIN 
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:51 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?


    My take on this is you have to look at what supporting a customer router 
costs you in support and service calls.  We have several clients who are doing 
one of a couple things.


    Some are selling a managed router service for $X a month.  This is 
typically a Mikrotik the ISP has access to.  The ISP sets up the wireless, 
manages the router, and other such functions.   This allows for a reference 
point on the customer side for testing, etc.  


    The other way to approach this is if you don’t want mess with router 
configuration some folks are including a “modem” that is essentially a hAP or 
750.  This is just in bridge mode or is the PPPOE client.  The customer then is 
free to plug in their own router if they so desire, but you still have a 
reference point from the customer side.  If you need a customer to bypass their 
router you simply ask them to plug into port5 or whatever on your “modem”. That 
port can be setup to do DHCP or whatever.


    You have to look at how much support consumer routers is costing you.  Many 
folks look at the cost of the routers and the cost to install them or replace 
them.  But if it cuts your support calls by 30% that might mean the difference 
between hiring another person, or other “soft” costs.




    Justin Wilson
    j...@mtin.net


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      On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:


      Are there any consumer routers that don't suck these days?

      I used to recommend Linksys/Cisco, but since the Belkin buyout quality 
seems to be going down. They jink with teh firewall and I can't block specific 
outgoing traffic, can't remote admin anymore, etc...

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