Never messed with it.

As someone mentioned above, if it isn't on store shelves it might as well not 
exist for 90% of our customers. Very few can wait 3 days shipping for a quality 
part when they could have a horribly unstable WIFI router today.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh Baird 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?


  .. again, no comments about the Cambium cnPilot stuff?  Even from WISPs that 
primarily use Cambium gear?



  Sounds like a decent feature set; PoE, ATA, centralized management, dual 
band, etc.  Haven't seen any in action, but at least it sounds promising.



  On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:


    I've had the Netgear 3700 series completely blow out the 2.4GHz band for 60 
seconds every 5 minutes, two different ones. Not sure of the exact model, been 
a little while since I fooled with one.

    MT assured us on the forum that they are seeking UNII certifications. I'm 
not banking on it and buying a ton of their hardware based on a promise, but 
I'm keeping a few on hand for specific shots.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ken Hohhof 
      To: af@afmug.com 
      Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 12:49 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?


      If a customer insists on a recommendation, I say every router you can buy 
in the store has problems, but the least problematic seems to be Netgear as 
long as you get at least a 3000 series.  I have seen a high field failure rate 
on the WNR2000, and they can die a slow lingering flakey death rather than just 
falling over dead.  Probably a WNDR3700 if you want gigabit and 3400 if you 
don’t.  Some customers get to the store and get a 4500 because it’s on sale or 
$10 more.  I like having gigabit ports but many customers these days don’t have 
a single wired device.  The Netgear routers come with the WiFi already secured, 
they can be set to wireless access point mode, and they have a lifetime 
warranty (but who is going to go through the trouble).  On the downside some 
laptops with Intel 802.11ac WiFi refuse to play nice with the Netgears, and the 
PPPoE default has to be changed from dial on demand.

      I will no longer sell routers to customers, many years of bad 
experiences.  But I will lease a managed Mikrotik (a nice one – typically a 
RB951G-2HnD or RB2011) for $5/month including free replacement.  I won’t sell a 
Mikrotik to a customer for them to manage unless the customer is an IT 
professional.

      This does mean I don’t have a dual band (much less 802.11ac) managed 
router solution.  Given our rural customer base, the 2.4 only WiFi usually 
works out better than dual band.  Occasionally I wish for dual band so we could 
segregate some weak WiFi clients (like Dropcams) onto their own band.  Mikrotik 
doesn’t seem to want to deal with getting equipment FCC approved in 5 GHz.

      Some of the routers customers have bought that have been problematic:  
Cradlepoint, Securifi, Amped Wireless (at least the range extenders).


      From: Brett A Mansfield 
      Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:30 AM
      To: af@afmug.com 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?

      I've had very bad luck with Belkin, D-Link, Asus (the worst), linksys, 
and low end netgear. I've had great success with the higher end netgear and the 
3rd through 5th gen Apple AirPort Extreme. Prior to the 3rd gen and the 6th gen 
(latest) airports are junk. So I'm with you, pretty much every consumer grade 
router is trash now.

      Thank you, 
      Brett A Mansfield

      On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:


        Are there any consumer routers that don't suck these days?

        I used to recommend Linksys/Cisco, but since the Belkin buyout quality 
seems to be going down. They jink with teh firewall and I can't block specific 
outgoing traffic, can't remote admin anymore, etc...

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