.. again, no comments about the Cambium cnPilot stuff?  Even from WISPs that 
primarily use Cambium gear?

Sounds like a decent feature set; PoE, ATA, centralized management, dual band, 
etc.  Haven't seen any in action, but at least it sounds promising.

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:
> 
> I've had the Netgear 3700 series completely blow out the 2.4GHz band for 60 
> seconds every 5 minutes, two different ones. Not sure of the exact model, 
> been a little while since I fooled with one.
> 
> MT assured us on the forum that they are seeking UNII certifications. I'm not 
> banking on it and buying a ton of their hardware based on a promise, but I'm 
> keeping a few on hand for specific shots.
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken Hohhof
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 12:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?
> 
> If a customer insists on a recommendation, I say every router you can buy in 
> the store has problems, but the least problematic seems to be Netgear as long 
> as you get at least a 3000 series.  I have seen a high field failure rate on 
> the WNR2000, and they can die a slow lingering flakey death rather than just 
> falling over dead.  Probably a WNDR3700 if you want gigabit and 3400 if you 
> don’t.  Some customers get to the store and get a 4500 because it’s on sale 
> or $10 more.  I like having gigabit ports but many customers these days don’t 
> have a single wired device.  The Netgear routers come with the WiFi already 
> secured, they can be set to wireless access point mode, and they have a 
> lifetime warranty (but who is going to go through the trouble).  On the 
> downside some laptops with Intel 802.11ac WiFi refuse to play nice with the 
> Netgears, and the PPPoE default has to be changed from dial on demand.
>  
> I will no longer sell routers to customers, many years of bad experiences.  
> But I will lease a managed Mikrotik (a nice one – typically a RB951G-2HnD or 
> RB2011) for $5/month including free replacement.  I won’t sell a Mikrotik to 
> a customer for them to manage unless the customer is an IT professional.
>  
> This does mean I don’t have a dual band (much less 802.11ac) managed router 
> solution.  Given our rural customer base, the 2.4 only WiFi usually works out 
> better than dual band.  Occasionally I wish for dual band so we could 
> segregate some weak WiFi clients (like Dropcams) onto their    own band.  
> Mikrotik doesn’t seem to want to deal with getting equipment FCC approved in 
> 5 GHz.
>  
> Some of the routers customers have bought that have been problematic:  
> Cradlepoint, Securifi, Amped Wireless (at least the range extenders).
>  
>  
> From: Brett A Mansfield
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:30 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?
>  
> I've had very bad luck with Belkin, D-Link, Asus (the worst), linksys, and 
> low end netgear. I've had great success with the higher end netgear and the 
> 3rd through 5th gen Apple AirPort Extreme. Prior to the 3rd gen and the 6th 
> gen (latest) airports are junk. So I'm with you, pretty much every consumer 
> grade router is trash now.
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Are there any consumer routers that don't suck these days?
>> 
>> I used to recommend Linksys/Cisco, but since the Belkin buyout quality seems 
>> to be going down. They jink with teh firewall and I can't block specific 
>> outgoing traffic, can't remote admin anymore, etc...

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