Great info, thanks!  I've lived here my whole life but I've never really
dealt with rain fade or snow fade.  I just assumed that snow would be worse
when it is coming down thick.  We really don't get many torrential rains
like you guys back East do.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> You know what really sucks for multipath?  Heavy rain on frozen ground,
> sits there and freezes into a big skating rink out in the fields, and stays
> there until spring thaw.  Like a big RF mirror.
>
> Other than that, RF seems to like winter.
>
>
> *From:* Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 6:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>
>
> +1.  The other benefit to snow vs. rain is the droplet size (a rain drop
> is closer to the wavelengths we use vs. a snowflake).
>
>
>
> Snow actually causes two different issues typically than fade thru Free
> Space.  First, depending on the geometry of the link, may cause multipath
> where snowless conditions do not have it and two (and more likely) melting
> snow built up on the antenna and re-freezing builds ice on the radome and
> causes fade.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> afmu...@gmail.com
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: Twitter
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>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2015 9:44 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>
>
>
> Snow in the air actually causes a lot less fade at =>11 GHz than the
> equivalent amount of rain. Even wet snow is relatively "dry" when it's in
> the air until it hits surfaces and starts congealing.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Seriously though, how does that perform in wet, heavy snow at 3.5 miles?
> I can't imagine it would be good.  I am in Utah too.  Am I wrong for
> engineering all of my 24GHz links at less than one mile?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Work <timothy.pct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dont know if @UBNT-Chuck wants to chime in here but you may want to take a
> look at what going on with the 3.2 beta on the forum it might be more just
> for AFX though not real clear on that
>
>
> —
> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
> Cannot speak for the link calculator, but  I can share with you the
> following:-
>
>
>
> 1) -64/-65 is the right signal level for a link distance of 3.5 miles
>
> 2) yes the chains should be balanced (all of them the same  or +/- 1-2db),
> your one side is rather off ...
>
>     (when you have them just right, it does take a bit of patience, each
> side of the chain should be similar or the same +/- 1db
>
> 3) you might want to reduce the RX gain to low, and or if you leave the
> gain high, try reducing the power one 1db at a time... to get the full 8x
> modulation...
>
>
>
> Best of Luck
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:30:07 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>
> Ooops, wrong image, lol!
>
>
>
> This is the one that I thought I attached, but didn’t show up as an
> attachment.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2015 4:23 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>
>
>
> You Sure ?
>
>
>
> Here is attached proof... doing max of 47G x 9.42G on a 100meg port !
>
>
>
> LOL!
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:15:02 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>
> Somehow I really doubt you got 8.4gbps on a gigabit port.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry, this was the picture of the link in question.
> What should I be seeing?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 4:00 PM
> To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>
> Is there a good link estimation utility for the Airfiber 24 HD?
>
> I like the UBNT online link calculator, but it doesn't work with 24Ghz?
>
> This is the link I just put up, shouldn't the chains all be about equal dB?
> What does it mean when the second chain is so much different from the
> first on these units?
>
> Don't even know if the dB is dialed in at this range :(
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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