Somebody should bother the FCC to allow +10 or +18 Tx power in 24 GHz, but
only with very tight pattern (RPE, tiny sidelobes and f/b ratio) 2' and 3'
PTP dishes...  I wonder how successful such a lobbying effort would be.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Slightly better.  Bigger rx antenna.  Can't break the limits of tx.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Oct 29, 2015 10:22 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
> wrote:
>
>> So is the newer Airfiber HD better at rain fade than the 750Mbps Airfiber?
>>
>>
>>
>> It seems like it has a better transmit antenna, so it should be able to
>> fall back and retain better in the rain/snow fade.
>>
>>
>>
>> That was my hope anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> This link I posted has an existing link with nearly identical distance,
>> just a half mile away on the mountain end (same location on the origin end).
>>
>> It seems to be able to stay up in all but the most horrid of rain
>> conditions.
>>
>> Snow doesn’t seem to affect it at all.
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2015 8:07 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>>
>>
>>
>> No.  We had a heavy rain in Phoenix on a 2.5 mile link.  Lost the link
>> for about 15 minutes but this was a torrential rain, not normal for our
>> area.  We are reducing that to 2.0 miles to minimize it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jeremy
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:33 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>>
>>
>>
>> Seriously though, how does that perform in wet, heavy snow at 3.5 miles?
>> I can't imagine it would be good.  I am in Utah too.  Am I wrong for
>> engineering all of my 24GHz links at less than one mile?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Work <timothy.pct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dont know if @UBNT-Chuck wants to chime in here but you may want to take
>> a look at what going on with the 3.2 beta on the forum it might be more
>> just for AFX though not real clear on that
>>
>>
>> —
>> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Cannot speak for the link calculator, but  I can share with you the
>> following:-
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) -64/-65 is the right signal level for a link distance of 3.5 miles
>>
>> 2) yes the chains should be balanced (all of them the same  or +/-
>> 1-2db), your one side is rather off ...
>>
>>     (when you have them just right, it does take a bit of patience, each
>> side of the chain should be similar or the same +/- 1db
>>
>> 3) you might want to reduce the RX gain to low, and or if you leave the
>> gain high, try reducing the power one 1db at a time... to get the full 8x
>> modulation...
>>
>>
>>
>> Best of Luck
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:30:07 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>>
>> Ooops, wrong image, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> This is the one that I thought I attached, but didn’t show up as an
>> attachment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2015 4:23 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>>
>>
>>
>> You Sure ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is attached proof... doing max of 47G x 9.42G on a 100meg port !
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:15:02 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>>
>> Somehow I really doubt you got 8.4gbps on a gigabit port.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, this was the picture of the link in question.
>> What should I be seeing?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 4:00 PM
>> To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD
>>
>> Is there a good link estimation utility for the Airfiber 24 HD?
>>
>> I like the UBNT online link calculator, but it doesn't work with 24Ghz?
>>
>> This is the link I just put up, shouldn't the chains all be about equal
>> dB?
>> What does it mean when the second chain is so much different from the
>> first on these units?
>>
>> Don't even know if the dB is dialed in at this range :(
>>
>>
>>
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