+1.  The other benefit to snow vs. rain is the droplet size (a rain drop is 
closer to the wavelengths we use vs. a snowflake).



Snow actually causes two different issues typically than fade thru Free Space.  
First, depending on the geometry of the link, may cause multipath where 
snowless conditions do not have it and two (and more likely) melting snow built 
up on the antenna and re-freezing builds ice on the radome and causes fade.



Thank you,



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 9:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD



Snow in the air actually causes a lot less fade at =>11 GHz than the equivalent 
amount of rain. Even wet snow is relatively "dry" when it's in the air until it 
hits surfaces and starts congealing.



On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Seriously though, how does that perform in wet, heavy snow at 3.5 miles?  I 
can't imagine it would be good.  I am in Utah too.  Am I wrong for engineering 
all of my 24GHz links at less than one mile?



On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Work <timothy.pct...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Dont know if @UBNT-Chuck wants to chime in here but you may want to take a look 
at what going on with the 3.2 beta on the forum it might be more just for AFX 
though not real clear on that


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On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net 
<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net> > wrote:

Cannot speak for the link calculator, but  I can share with you the following:-



1) -64/-65 is the right signal level for a link distance of 3.5 miles

2) yes the chains should be balanced (all of them the same  or +/- 1-2db), your 
one side is rather off ...

    (when you have them just right, it does take a bit of patience, each side 
of the chain should be similar or the same +/- 1db

3) you might want to reduce the RX gain to low, and or if you leave the gain 
high, try reducing the power one 1db at a time... to get the full 8x 
modulation...



Best of Luck



Faisal Imtiaz
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From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:30:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD

Ooops, wrong image, lol!



This is the one that I thought I attached, but didn’t show up as an attachment.







From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 4:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD



You Sure ?



Here is attached proof... doing max of 47G x 9.42G on a 100meg port !



LOL!



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Miami, FL 33155
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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 6:15:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD

Somehow I really doubt you got 8.4gbps on a gigabit port.





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On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net 
<mailto:sterl...@avative.net> > wrote:

Sorry, this was the picture of the link in question.
What should I be seeing?


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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 4:00 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ' <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD

Is there a good link estimation utility for the Airfiber 24 HD?

I like the UBNT online link calculator, but it doesn't work with 24Ghz?

This is the link I just put up, shouldn't the chains all be about equal dB?
What does it mean when the second chain is so much different from the first on 
these units?

Don't even know if the dB is dialed in at this range :(













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