I've never seen a good case for PTZ. Why not just put up another camera for less money?
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 31, 2015 12:56 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > UBNT is priced right and it does what I need. It was easy to install and > has great features. The NVR is really slick. Yes, I would love PTZ or a > way to mount it on PTZ but I don’t want to spend the money for that. I > have tried the panasonic PTZ built into the camera, it is OK but the > video quality left something to be desired. I love the tiny UBNT thing > that is about the size of a small door knob. Talks to you via wifi and has > audio. Only needs power and something to stick it to. > > *From:* Sorin Esanu <so...@evox.ro> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 31, 2015 10:51 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras > > I want a different camera because: > - ubnt might not make it with the lens I want > - ubnt might not make the camera I need. Having one "in the works" is a > joke, not an answer to my potential problem > - ubnt is not on this list > http://www.onvif.org/About/AlphabeticalMemberList.aspx and that might be > important as far as inter-operating with others (reasons: existing hardware > on the premises, request from client). > > > > On 10/31/2015 4:09 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote: > > I can read a license plate on any camera depending on the location and > configuration. > > To say the UBNT product is not a professional product is both naive and > simply an opinion. Just because you cannot use a third party product with > it doesn't mean it's not a professional product. And I'll bet UBNT has a > camera in the works with tilt, pan and zoom. > > UBNT was designed to be simple to install and quick to deploy. It was also > designed to just work. Their cameras are by far the best cameras and NVR > I've been able to find on the market. Nothing else I've found is as > seamless. I don't know why you would want a 3rd party camera with it to be > honest. Their cameras are really good. > > I'm not saying that UBNT is the best in every environment, but they are > for most in my opinion. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > On Oct 31, 2015, at 1:16 AM, Sorin Esanu <so...@evox.ro> wrote: > > It's something wrong with your setup, because I can read plates in the > dark without any issue. > We are not comparing apples with apples here. Hikvision is professional > product (like many others on the market). Ubnt is not. Can you install a > 3rd party PTZ/Speeddome camera on Ubnt system if needed? I am talking here > about _integrating_ it with the Ubnt software. > > > On 10/30/2015 11:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > It didn’t do the seamless NVR like UBNT. For a single stand alone it was > OK but it still cannot see a truck license plate in the dark. > > *From:* TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> > *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 3:44 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras > > Ubnt stuff is unreliable. What didn't you like about the Hikvision? > Probably just a setting, stuff is flawless > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> You should take a look at the new UBNT stuff. I also tried Hikvision >> recently and I like the UBNT stuff better. >> >> *From:* TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 12:42 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras >> >> I've been doing professional cctv contracting for 10 years and I've never >> been more impressed with a product's price/performance than Hikvision >> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Or I can blame them for wasting my time and taking my money when they >>> clearly had nothing worth selling. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/30/2015 2:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> Like if you want to compare helicopters to potatoes. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Oct 30, 2015 1:59 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sure I can. >>>> >>>> On 10/30/2015 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>>> >>>> You can't blame a vendor for a crappy product if they're replaced it >>>> with a product that isn't crappy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>>> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Sorin Esanu" mailto:so...@evox.ro <so...@evox.ro> >>>> <so...@evox.ro> >>>> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Friday, October 30, 2015 12:48:57 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras >>>> >>>> Please compare the specs and see what they can do and cannot do. >>>> >>>> As far as how it compares with Ubnt, I've tested as some point the >>>> unifi >>>> video cameras and they were pretty bad as far as quality, lacking some >>>> basic features (IR filter). It seemed to me like a beta product that >>>> should have never be release to the public. As I understand they >>>> refined >>>> it, but still, Hikvision is big, with a lot of experience in making >>>> just >>>> video surveillance products. Even so, our Hikvision fleet serves us >>>> well >>>> and I would not go with Ubnt. >>>> >>>> There is also the issue with interoperability: Hikvision cameras are >>>> supported on countless surveillance software and hardware (NVRs); >>>> Hikvision NVRs are supporting countless other cameras (other >>>> manufacturers) and even ONVIF and RTSP. That gives you the possibility >>>> to install a 3rd party product, in case you need it. I don't know if >>>> you >>>> can say that about Ubnt. Is that important? Well... if you have 1-2 >>>> cameras, probably no. When you go to larger projects, absolutely. >>>> Access >>>> control system that interconnect with video surveillance, professional >>>> analytics software, ONVIF support... >>>> >>>> I like Ubnt as far as radios, but that's where it stops for me. >>>> >>>> On 10/30/2015 6:33 PM, Tushar Patel wrote: >>>> > I am new to this so I have question, when you say following: >>>> > >>>> >> + real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx >>>> > What does it mean to us? >>>> > >>>> > To me any camera with good quality where you can see faces and/or >>>> license plate and record it or send via email etc. >>>> > >>>> > So what does the mentioned camera does more which grandstream and/or >>>> ubnt does not? >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > >>>> > Tushar >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com> >>>> <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Sorin Esanu >>>> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:30 AM >>>> > To: af@afmug.com >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras >>>> > >>>> > Hikvision DS-2CD2632F-I(S) or DS-2CD2732F-I(S) >>>> > + cheap >>>> > + real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx >>>> > + varifocal on board microSD for recording (you do not need NVR!) very >>>> > + good video quality IR included, pretty efective for distances up to >>>> > + 10m (their marketing >>>> > says 30m. BS!) >>>> > + app for mobile, tablet, pc. I can be used for live view or search >>>> > recordings on SD camera >>>> > + POE & 12VDC >>>> > >>>> > - DWDR, but I guess you cannot ask for true WDR in a 200$ camera >>>> > >>>> > It's basically one of the cheapest true surveillance cameras you can >>>> get for ~$200. You can get them even cheaper than that, if you get >>>> quantity. >>>> > They are also selling very nice NVRs, with decent prices, that can >>>> work flawless with their cameras. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 10/30/2015 3:05 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>> >> I am constructing a new building and I need a security camera system >>>> >> which has DVR functionality and be remotely reachable, preferably via >>>> >> mobile. I have had the cheap QSee Sams system and although functional >>>> >> it is a pretty big disappointment from most perspectives. >>>> >> I know a lot of people use and install these. >>>> >> >>>> >> Are there any suggestions for systems? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > >
