As I always say, if you are looking at refurbished gear and need a full
routing table, you really need to pay attention to the specific part
numbers.  There is a lot of junk on Ebay. LOL


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
[email protected]
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> I almost ended up with 4 MLXe-8's a few months ago, but ended up getting a
> killer deal on some MX960s instead.
> On Feb 27, 2016 1:37 PM, "Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> If you go with Brocade, the MLXe is the lowest line that will give you
>> full MPLS with the number of ports you are requiring 10 or 40 or 100.  I
>> talked to them yesterday about where their line is between CER and MLXe.  I
>> was told possibly early next year, but no specifics.
>>
>> If you want me to price one or two for you, let me know.  We just did a
>> big order of CERs for Fusion, so we are on their radar :)
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> [email protected]
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Windstream. I assume it's running on the same DTN-X platform that their
>>> 100G is running on, which should do coherent 40G.
>>>
>>> I know it will depend on what they're using and obviously how proud they
>>> are of it. I'm just here to talk about the switches on the ends and not
>>> what's in the middle. I can't make an informed decision without having both
>>> pieces and in due time I'll have the transport cost piece.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Erich Kaiser" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:05:18 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Whos long haul is it?  It will depend on what they are using on their
>>> end.  The cheapest solution is multi-10g waves.
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> [email protected]
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be getting waves on someone else's long haul network.
>>>>
>>>> 10G is a slam dunk over 10x 1G. Just checking out the scene for 40G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:25:12 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the distance, is this for WAN over a mile or two?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> QSFP+ modules and switches can be cheap, but I agree that long distance
>>>> bonding of 4x10 SFP+ modules is cheaper.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:22 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 40G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i think is more cost effective to bond 4 10g?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:17 AM -0800, "Josh Reynolds" <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Which means that 40Gb WAN kin is now a steal :)
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 27, 2016 11:05 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 40g is for lan, wan has jumped to 100g
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 8:37 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For those of you that have looked at 40G, what are your thoughts on the
>>>> hardware available? I'm looking at primarily switching, though something
>>>> that does VPLS, CE or similar features would be nice. Something with TRILL
>>>> or a TRILL derivative would be nice too.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking Juniper MX scale. Light on power is one of the biggest
>>>> priorities.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't need to have a million ports, either. I do like the Nexus 9k
>>>> that we've got, but in some areas, something with more functionality would
>>>> be nice.
>>>>
>>>> I'm perfectly aware that what I want feature wise may not be available
>>>> cost wise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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