One of the big problems I see with voting in the US is the fact that people
feel that they have to vote republican or democrat even if their heart is
somewhere else.

I'm sort of a 'moderate libertarian'.   I find a lot of people are of this
temperament - probably right up there with the number of democrats.   I
believe the government should stay out of most things, but some of the
things the libertarian party thinks should be deregulated or privatized
presupposes that greedy corporations and individuals will do the right
thing.  But back to the point, many people would find themselves more
aligned with a party which isn't the republicans or democrats.

Because of the system we have, there's no way for me to vote ' I really
want the libertarian, but If I can't have that, I'd settle for this other
candidate.  So I have to look at the republicrat candidates and decide if I
should help weight the election towards one or another of them.

I suspect if people could vote what their conscience dictated without
feeling like their vote wasn't likely to count we'd start seeing more third
parties in office.

-forrest

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have voted libertarian in the past.  Multiple people told me I was
> "wasting my vote".
> I tell them the only way you waste your vote is by voting for something
> you didn't really believe in.
>
>
> On 3/13/2016 12:07 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> This is looking like a year that I may end up voting libertarian again.
>
> I voted for Obama the last two go arounds mainly because I had hoped he
> could bring both sides to the table.  That didn't happen and so I'm a bit
> dissapointed.
>
> I'm a single issue voter at this point.   Whoever can act as a catalyst to
> get our politics working like it was described in elementary school social
> studies gets my vote.    I feel the most important thing a president can do
> is get everyone in a room and hammer out a deal.   This whole refusal to
> come to a middle ground has to stop.  I thought Obama might be it.   Boy
> was I wrong.  The Republicans dug in even more.
>
> I don't see any of the presidential candidates being this person.   So I'm
> likely voting for the third party unless something changes.
> On Mar 12, 2016 8:56 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the locals are primarily just anti trump, mostly Bernie, a few
>> Hillary and maybe one for Cruz. The paid protesters support whichever
>> president is on the bills they are paid with, but predominately Bernie.
>>
>> I hate that I have to vote trump, i wish there were an actual good
>> candidate, but Cruz is too much of a zealot to beat the left, and neither
>> of the two on the left will take us in any positive direction, they'll just
>> continue focusing on dividing the nation like the current mope.
>>
>> I'm still hoping Bill Murray makes his run for real.
>> On Mar 12, 2016 10:03 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Singing songs and carrying signs
>>> Mostly say hooray for our side
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:57 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More
>>> After Chicago Violence
>>>
>>> Who are the local protesters supporting and who are the paid protesters
>>> supporting?
>>>
>>> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's coming to this area tommorrow. I have been monitoring the local
>>>> protester chatter, their plans to go and protest. I've been warning them
>>>> they're going to be outnumbered by the paid protesters and to have an exit
>>>> strategy if things go south. And also pointed them to some resources for
>>>> better preparedness in the event they choose to stay if mayhem starts. They
>>>> have no clue what they're in for with these professional rabblerousers.  I
>>>> fear a lot of them will be recruited into these left wing terror cells and
>>>> not even realize it.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 12, 2016 8:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Yes   great idea
>>>>
>>>>     On Mar 12, 2016 7:39 PM, "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net
>>>>     <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         The Solorza Summit.
>>>>
>>>>         On March 12, 2016 8:18:36 PM CST, Jaime Solorza
>>>>         <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
>>>>         wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Yep   I don't hate anyone on this list...I have different
>>>>             points of view from many but I also listen and learn allot
>>>>             on this list...a cold beer or cup of coffee across a table
>>>>             can be a good place to start over.
>>>>
>>>>             On Mar 12, 2016 7:08 PM, "Josh Reynolds"
>>>>             <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 Trump rally in Kansas City was just broken up...
>>>>
>>>>                 I don't condone this at all. I may not like Trump, but
>>>>                 the guy
>>>>                 deserves to sink or swim on his own merit. Breaking up
>>>>                 these rallies
>>>>                 regardless of the speaker is a threat to democracy.
>>>>                 Jaime you kind of
>>>>                 hinted at this earlier - Our forefathers used to sit
>>>>                 around at the
>>>>                 tavern having a brew and debating the future of the
>>>>                 country. It's a
>>>>                 shame we can't do the same anymore without resulting
>>>>                 to labeling
>>>>                 ("liberal", "rino", "right-winger", "left-winger",
>>>>                 "birther", etc) /
>>>>                 name calling.
>>>>
>>>>                 I never considered a difference of opinion in
>>>>                 politics, in religion,
>>>>                 in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.
>>>>                 Thomas
>>>>                 Jefferson
>>>>
>>>>                 On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>>>                 <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>>>>                 <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>                 >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/donald-trump-violence-chicago_us_56e49f5de4b065e2e3d63591
>>>>                 >
>>>>                 > Dogs?  Hum where have I seen that used before?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         --         Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please
>>>> excuse my
>>>>         brevity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>


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