Unfortunately, the libertarian party appears to be bought and paid for by some pretty major money (Koch brothers for one). Also, don't even get me started on how most things should be hands-off, but where it is convenient from a conservative standpoint, it's OK for the government to get VERY into people's personal lives. I'm unable to even give a libertarian candidate the time of day until I see one that is actually libertarian.
On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > The "my wife" syndrome. She always views for the candidate she likes best > which also has the best chance to win, rather than who she likes best. > Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. Everybody's idea > of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll make a deal. > I really wish the libertarian party could produce a real candidate. > Neither party wants smaller government and we can't afford what we have. > The feds, and for that matter, nearly every government level, screws up > whatever it touches. > STOSSEL FOR PRESIDENT! > Maybe that's too much but how much worse could anything get than what we > have now. These guys are simply dysfunctional. If Washington was > Thanksgiving nobody would drive to it to spend a day there. > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2016, 11:38 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','li...@packetflux.com');>> wrote: > >> One of the big problems I see with voting in the US is the fact that >> people feel that they have to vote republican or democrat even if their >> heart is somewhere else. >> >> I'm sort of a 'moderate libertarian'. I find a lot of people are of >> this temperament - probably right up there with the number of democrats. >> I believe the government should stay out of most things, but some of the >> things the libertarian party thinks should be deregulated or privatized >> presupposes that greedy corporations and individuals will do the right >> thing. But back to the point, many people would find themselves more >> aligned with a party which isn't the republicans or democrats. >> >> Because of the system we have, there's no way for me to vote ' I really >> want the libertarian, but If I can't have that, I'd settle for this other >> candidate. So I have to look at the republicrat candidates and decide if I >> should help weight the election towards one or another of them. >> >> I suspect if people could vote what their conscience dictated without >> feeling like their vote wasn't likely to count we'd start seeing more third >> parties in office. >> >> -forrest >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmmoff...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> I have voted libertarian in the past. Multiple people told me I was >>> "wasting my vote". >>> I tell them the only way you waste your vote is by voting for something >>> you didn't really believe in. >>> >>> >>> On 3/13/2016 12:07 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: >>> >> This is looking like a year that I may end up voting libertarian again. >>> >>> I voted for Obama the last two go arounds mainly because I had hoped he >>> could bring both sides to the table. That didn't happen and so I'm a bit >>> dissapointed. >>> >>> I'm a single issue voter at this point. Whoever can act as a catalyst >>> to get our politics working like it was described in elementary school >>> social studies gets my vote. I feel the most important thing a president >>> can do is get everyone in a room and hammer out a deal. This whole >>> refusal to come to a middle ground has to stop. I thought Obama might be >>> it. Boy was I wrong. The Republicans dug in even more. >>> >>> I don't see any of the presidential candidates being this person. So >>> I'm likely voting for the third party unless something changes. >>> >>> On Mar 12, 2016 8:56 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thatoneguyst...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>> >>> I think the locals are primarily just anti trump, mostly Bernie, a few >>>> Hillary and maybe one for Cruz. The paid protesters support whichever >>>> president is on the bills they are paid with, but predominately Bernie. >>>> >>>> I hate that I have to vote trump, i wish there were an actual good >>>> candidate, but Cruz is too much of a zealot to beat the left, and neither >>>> of the two on the left will take us in any positive direction, they'll just >>>> continue focusing on dividing the nation like the current mope. >>>> >>>> I'm still hoping Bill Murray makes his run for real. >>>> >>> On Mar 12, 2016 10:03 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>> wrote: >>>> >>> Singing songs and carrying signs >>>>> Mostly say hooray for our side >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:57 PM >>>>> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More >>>>> After Chicago Violence >>>>> >>>>> Who are the local protesters supporting and who are the paid protesters >>>>> supporting? >>>>> >>>>> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> He's coming to this area tommorrow. I have been monitoring the local >>>>>> protester chatter, their plans to go and protest. I've been warning them >>>>>> they're going to be outnumbered by the paid protesters and to have an >>>>>> exit >>>>>> strategy if things go south. And also pointed them to some resources for >>>>>> better preparedness in the event they choose to stay if mayhem starts. >>>>>> They >>>>>> have no clue what they're in for with these professional rabblerousers. >>>>>> I >>>>>> fear a lot of them will be recruited into these left wing terror cells >>>>>> and >>>>>> not even realize it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 12, 2016 8:49 PM, "Jaime Solorza" < >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');> >>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');> <mailto: >>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes great idea >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 12, 2016 7:39 PM, "Jay Weekley" < >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','par...@cyberbroadband.net');> >>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','par...@cyberbroadband.net');> >>>>>> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','par...@cyberbroadband.net');>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The Solorza Summit. >>>>>> >>>>>> On March 12, 2016 8:18:36 PM CST, Jaime Solorza >>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');> <mailto: >>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep I don't hate anyone on this list...I have different >>>>>> points of view from many but I also listen and learn allot >>>>>> on this list...a cold beer or cup of coffee across a table >>>>>> can be a good place to start over. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 12, 2016 7:08 PM, "Josh Reynolds" >>>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@kyneticwifi.com');> <mailto: >>>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@kyneticwifi.com');>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Trump rally in Kansas City was just broken up... >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't condone this at all. I may not like Trump, but >>>>>> the guy >>>>>> deserves to sink or swim on his own merit. Breaking up >>>>>> these rallies >>>>>> regardless of the speaker is a threat to democracy. >>>>>> Jaime you kind of >>>>>> hinted at this earlier - Our forefathers used to sit >>>>>> around at the >>>>>> tavern having a brew and debating the future of the >>>>>> country. It's a >>>>>> shame we can't do the same anymore without resulting >>>>>> to labeling >>>>>> ("liberal", "rino", "right-winger", "left-winger", >>>>>> "birther", etc) / >>>>>> name calling. >>>>>> >>>>>> I never considered a difference of opinion in >>>>>> politics, in religion, >>>>>> in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. >>>>>> Thomas >>>>>> Jefferson >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Jaime Solorza >>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');> >>>>>> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com');>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/donald-trump-violence-chicago_us_56e49f5de4b065e2e3d63591 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Dogs? Hum where have I seen that used before? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please >>>>>> excuse my >>>>>> brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> -- >> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* >> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 >> forre...@imach.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','forre...@imach.com');> >> | http://www.packetflux.com >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> >> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> >> >>
