Scott went somewhere else about 6 months or a year ago. From: Jeremy Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 9:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Wifi
No, it was Scott. Sounds like we dodged a bullet anyway. I feel better about the rejection after hearing that story Travis! On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:26 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: Was it Gabe Gomez that turned you down initially? I am guessing they don’t like WISPS because they compete with their owners. From: Jeremy Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Wifi They tried to hand us off to CentraCom, who has agreements in place to resell on their fiber network. However, they weren't willing to do it at the same price that we initially discussed with Syringa (before they found out that we were a WISP). They even offered the bandwidth to CentraCom at a lower rate than what they offered it to us. Apparently they felt that the risk was too high doing business with a WISP so they would rather take less money from someone else and let them do business with us. Either way, a default on the agreement would lead to a loss of that income for their business. The entire experience was a run-around waste of time. I feel that they acted extremely unprofessional. Maybe we can approach them again when they change their company policies. Meanwhile, we will continue buying bandwidth from their competitors. On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: Maybe get it through Indatel instead? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 12:11:07 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Wifi I spoke with their CEO, and they refuse to do business with WISPs. They said that "they had been burned by a few of them". I went to the top looking for answers. They still service businesses, and surely they "have been burned by a few of them" as well. He said that the failure rate was a bit higher with WISPs than businesses in general so they swore them off completely. I offered to be a personal guarantor and my credit score is around 840. They still wouldn't do business with me. After negotiating with the CEO I got them to come to an agreement, $30K NRC up front. There is already a conduit to the hand hole in front of my building where their fiber is. Needless to say, we passed on the offer. Syringa doesn't seem to understand how business agreements work. When they fail, there is recourse available. I wish they would change their policies and do business with WISPs. I'd be happy to open up my books to them and show them how wildly successful we are. They have three redundant paths out of my valley and would be a great addition to our network. They also have fiber sitting ten feet from like three of our towers. Too bad.... On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: As a dark fiber operator (and WDM/transport provider for ISPs) Syringa is a pretty cool idea. It was founded by a bunch of small copper dialtone LECs (non Bell system) that each have a tiny portion of the Idaho market. Idaho has a lot of small telephone companies the size of Beehive or smaller that serve a few thousand houses. Starting 15+ years ago, none of them individually had enough money to run dark fiber around Idaho, but together they could do it... http://www.syringanetworks.net/about/history/ http://www.syringanetworks.net/resources/our_network/ On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: Hi, I'm staying at a hotel in Sun Valley, Idaho this weekend. This is the speedtest results from their free WiFi. Pretty damn impressive considering this is running the test on a six year old laptop with a basic Wifi chipset. Travis