FWIW We have Syringa (sold to us from Scott) about 2 years ago and it's been great. I agree it is probably overpriced a bit but the loop is provided by the incumbent ILEC and we compete against them directly so I think our loop price is probably higher than average. On Apr 23, 2016 9:57 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
Scott went somewhere else about 6 months or a year ago. *From:* Jeremy <[email protected]> *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2016 9:18 PM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Wifi No, it was Scott. Sounds like we dodged a bullet anyway. I feel better about the rejection after hearing that story Travis! On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:26 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Was it Gabe Gomez that turned you down initially? > I am guessing they don’t like WISPS because they compete with their > owners. > > *From:* Jeremy <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2016 11:21 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Wifi > > They tried to hand us off to CentraCom, who has agreements in place to > resell on their fiber network. However, they weren't willing to do it at > the same price that we initially discussed with Syringa (before they found > out that we were a WISP). They even offered the bandwidth to CentraCom at > a lower rate than what they offered it to us. Apparently they felt that > the risk was too high doing business with a WISP so they would rather take > less money from someone else and let them do business with us. Either way, > a default on the agreement would lead to a loss of that income for their > business. The entire experience was a run-around waste of time. I feel > that they acted extremely unprofessional. Maybe we can approach them again > when they change their company policies. Meanwhile, we will continue > buying bandwidth from their competitors. > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Maybe get it through Indatel instead? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Jeremy" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Saturday, April 23, 2016 12:11:07 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Wifi >> >> >> I spoke with their CEO, and they refuse to do business with WISPs. They >> said that "they had been burned by a few of them". I went to the top >> looking for answers. They still service businesses, and surely they "have >> been burned by a few of them" as well. He said that the failure rate was a >> bit higher with WISPs than businesses in general so they swore them off >> completely. I offered to be a personal guarantor and my credit score is >> around 840. They still wouldn't do business with me. After negotiating >> with the CEO I got them to come to an agreement, $30K NRC up front. There >> is already a conduit to the hand hole in front of my building where their >> fiber is. Needless to say, we passed on the offer. Syringa doesn't seem >> to understand how business agreements work. When they fail, there is >> recourse available. I wish they would change their policies and do >> business with WISPs. I'd be happy to open up my books to them and show >> them how wildly successful we are. They have three redundant paths out of >> my valley and would be a great addition to our network. They also have >> fiber sitting ten feet from like three of our towers. Too bad.... >> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> As a dark fiber operator (and WDM/transport provider for ISPs) Syringa >>> is a pretty cool idea. It was founded by a bunch of small copper dialtone >>> LECs (non Bell system) that each have a tiny portion of the Idaho market. >>> Idaho has a lot of small telephone companies the size of Beehive or smaller >>> that serve a few thousand houses. >>> >>> Starting 15+ years ago, none of them individually had enough money to >>> run dark fiber around Idaho, but together they could do it... >>> >>> http://www.syringanetworks.net/about/history/ >>> >>> http://www.syringanetworks.net/resources/our_network/ >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm staying at a hotel in Sun Valley, Idaho this weekend. This is the >>>> speedtest results from their free WiFi. Pretty damn impressive considering >>>> this is running the test on a six year old laptop with a basic Wifi >>>> chipset. >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > >
