+1 to whoever said pizza delivery

Very low stress. I initially drove like a maniac, but later learned to beat road rage and gave up aggressive driving.

On 5/1/2016 11:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Holy cow, Chuck said shit

On May 1, 2016 10:09 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    Hyperloyalty pays shit when things go sideways.  I will never give
    anyone hyperloyalty again unless I am their DNA donor.
    *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
    *Sent:* Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:10 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: applying to walmart
    Thats where i hit the "grey area" our other component is contract
    services, general IT, one component of which is security cameras,
    we arent cost effective, same with smb ptp, residential IT, all
    that. I technically dont have a no compete with my employer, i
    signed a restrictive one with my previous employer, it technically
    did not come with the transition when we split, and I made a point
    of not doing any contract work in my name with the previous
    partner for the duration of the no compete for that very reason.
    but, like the previous partner told me when i signed it, in
    Illinois, all a no compete really does is add however much hes
    willing to spend in court to the cost of my startup
    Ive turned down alot of side work to avoid conflict, just because
    i need steady income.
    (Im doing some bragging here) Heres a funny thing that recently
    happened, we had a contract with a healthcare customer that ended
    up dissolving into two separate entities, i handled the closeout,
    one entity didn't care, just started from scratch, the other
    migrated. i worked with them closing out, making sure systems
    moved, applicable data wasn't lost, licenses were replaced, ended
    up being a really clean and smooth transition for the customer
    (they literally closed out on a friday as one agency, opened on a
    monday as another, with no IT glitch). I met with the owner of the
    IT company that took IT over for a closeout lunch, it ended up
    being a 3 hour job interview, he wanted to hire me on the spot. It
    ended up I had to decline because of my personal commitments to my
    house ( I bought the one across from my parents, so i could help
    them age out until they die)
    Another of our customers who has always been a pseudo support
    contract I could never get closed because every time I handed it
    off to our customer service, they would screw it up has always
    asked me to handle their IT off the cuff. I always had to decline
    because of my stupid loyalty to my company.
    We recently lost that client to the same IT outfit that took over
    that split contract. The client called me one day to do some
    closeout, then all of a sudden told me he had a message from the
    other IT outfit telling me they would cover my relocation if id
    come over to them. Made me feel kind of tall.
    This is where that grey area screws me, I have no issue ITing out
    for anyone, my only rule is I wont outsource to anyone my employer
    has touched in any way. I screw myself because I have a good
    reputation and the majority of what would be my target market has
    come to us, for me, but declined because of the final details by
    ownership. I figure my hyper loyalty is karma for what i did to
    fathers daughters in my younger years.
    that was quite a rant, damn booze... I should probably go finish
    that walmart app
    On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Colin Stanners
    <cstann...@gmail.com <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        You should really look at doing security camera installs. I
        did some when I had less WISP work and the wiring/networking
        aspects are really similar. A number of businesses are OK with
        getting it done outside of standard work hours to not affect
        their operations.

        You could do it by yourself or as a subcontractor to another
        outfit, but you'd need to do at least a bit of the latter to
        learn some fine details of the business. Some one or two man
        shops are pretty friendly and open to occasional work.

        If you asked your WISP boss to let you put in the monthly bill
        "hey one of our guys is starting this part-time business" etc.
        I bet you'd get lots of inquiries already.

        As a bonus the camera service calls usually aren't as urgent
        as Internet or pc repair service calls. Companies are often ok
        with a camera being down a few days while never their internet
        or server.

        On May 1, 2016 6:23 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
        <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
        wrote:

            Ive been looking for a brain dead part time gig to keep me
            busy during what would normally be my designated drinking
            time, so i figured id go apply at walmart, stock some
            shelves or something overnight. holy cow, jail intake is
            less invasive. I ended up giving up, I just dont have the
            patience for that much effort for a minimum wage gig.
            what happened to the days when applying for mope work took
            mope effort?
-- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't
            see your team as part of yourself you have already failed
            as part of the team.



-- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
    your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
    the team.


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