I miss being a pizza delivery driver around here.  Good gig and a Superbowl 
Sunday, watch out.



I actually started doing it again when I was in the Marines to help make sure I 
didn’t get in trouble at night (plus I bought a new Camero I wanted to fix up). 
 Too bad it was the slums around that base… I knew I was out when in one night 
I had three deliveries ask for exact change with no tip… down to the penny.  I 
had to go look under my seats for pennies because I never carried them as a 
driver… and was too pissed off to give them more than they deserved back.



Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 7:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: applying to walmart



+1 to whoever said pizza delivery

Very low stress.  I initially drove like a maniac, but later learned to beat 
road rage and gave up aggressive driving.

On 5/1/2016 11:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Holy cow, Chuck said shit

On May 1, 2016 10:09 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Hyperloyalty pays shit when things go sideways.  I will never give anyone 
hyperloyalty again unless I am their DNA donor.



From: That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:10 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: applying to walmart



Thats where i hit the "grey area" our other component is contract services, 
general IT, one component of which is security cameras, we arent cost 
effective, same with smb ptp, residential IT, all that. I technically dont have 
a no compete with my employer, i signed a restrictive one with my previous 
employer, it technically did not come with the transition when we split, and I 
made a point of not doing any contract work in my name with the previous 
partner for the duration of the no compete for that very reason. but, like the 
previous partner told me when i signed it, in Illinois, all a no compete really 
does is add however much hes willing to spend in court to the cost of my startup



Ive turned down alot of side work to avoid conflict, just because i need steady 
income.



(Im doing some bragging here) Heres a funny thing that recently happened, we 
had a contract with a healthcare customer that ended up dissolving into two 
separate entities, i handled the closeout, one entity didn't care, just started 
from scratch, the other migrated. i worked with them closing out, making sure 
systems moved, applicable data wasn't lost, licenses were replaced, ended up 
being a really clean and smooth transition for the customer (they literally 
closed out on a friday as one agency, opened on a monday as another, with no IT 
glitch). I met with the owner of the IT company that took IT over for a 
closeout lunch, it ended up being a 3 hour job interview, he wanted to hire me 
on the spot. It ended up I had to decline because of my personal commitments to 
my house ( I bought the one across from my parents, so i could help them age 
out until they die)



Another of our customers who has always been a pseudo support contract I could 
never get closed because every time I handed it off to our customer service, 
they would screw it up has always asked me to handle their IT off the cuff. I 
always had to decline because of my stupid loyalty to my company.



We recently lost that client to the same IT outfit that took over that split 
contract. The client called me one day to do some closeout, then all of a 
sudden told me he had a message from the other IT outfit telling me they would 
cover my relocation if id come over to them. Made me feel kind of tall.



This is where that grey area screws me, I have no issue ITing out for anyone, 
my only rule is I wont outsource to anyone my employer has touched in any way. 
I screw myself because I have a good reputation and the majority of what would 
be my target market has come to us, for me, but declined because of the final 
details by ownership. I figure my hyper loyalty is karma for what i did to 
fathers daughters in my younger years.



that was quite a rant, damn booze... I should probably go finish that walmart 
app



On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cstann...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You should really look at doing security camera installs. I did some when I had 
less WISP work and the wiring/networking aspects are really similar. A number 
of businesses are OK with getting it done outside of standard work hours to not 
affect their operations.

You could do it by yourself or as a subcontractor to another outfit, but you'd 
need to do at least a bit of the latter to learn some fine details of the 
business. Some one or two man shops are pretty friendly and open to occasional 
work.

If you asked your WISP boss to let you put in the monthly bill "hey one of our 
guys is starting this part-time business" etc. I bet you'd get lots of 
inquiries already.

As a bonus the camera service calls usually aren't as urgent as Internet or pc 
repair service calls. Companies are often ok with a camera being down a few 
days while never their internet or server.

On May 1, 2016 6:23 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Ive been looking for a brain dead part time gig to keep me busy during what 
would normally be my designated drinking time, so i figured id go apply at 
walmart, stock some shelves or something overnight. holy cow, jail intake is 
less invasive. I ended up giving up, I just dont have the patience for that 
much effort for a minimum wage gig.

what happened to the days when applying for mope work took mope effort?

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