and that 8 is geo redundant with the main site having redundancy within it.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 2:06:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru You can use one host, I just prefer 8. :-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 2:05:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru I'm not touching Zimbra if it requires me (which it probably doesn't) to spin up 8 hosts like you do. :) I can happily run 10k+ Exchange 2010 mailboxes on two servers. If I was spinning up something that had to actually host mailboxes on a small-ish scale (and I didn't have a budget), I would do what Eric does and use Postfix/Dovecot/$the_newest_elite_webmail_solution. If I had a small budget and didn't already have an existing mailbox infrastructure, I'm more than likely going to outsource it (O365, Google or whatever). Josh On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Zimbra is great. I don't know why everyone doesn't use it. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Tyler Treat" < tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:37:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru I can't fully disagree with the your email Josh - for customers. That said, in a large, and growing office environment, it's hard to match the featureset of exchange if you're willing to pay for it every couple revisions... Then if you dump office365 into the mix for ultra small headcount orgs who don't want/cant justify servers and maintenance, it's pretty slick. Disclaimer: I've never knowingly used zimbra, so it may be just as good if you've got someone who can make it dance. ________________________________________ From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru [1] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the experience of a large email provider [2] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the hardware redundancy of a large email provider [3] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the software redundancy of a large email provider [4] As a small to medium ISP, you likely have other, more important duties besides worrying about managing your own email server [5] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the dedicated team a large email provider has to help get off / stay off blacklists [6] As a small to medium ISP, internal per user mail cost via cloud provider is a very efficient use of opex given the above [7] As a small to medium ISP, you can only "do better" than the above in cost alone. [8] As a small to medium ISP, If cost is the only importance when it comes to mail, use Zimbra, Sendmail, etc. [9] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail to customers, consider Sendmail. Sendmail has been used by a metric asston of ISPs - potentially serving several billion customers over the years. It is very well tested and supported. [10] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail to customers and don't like Sendmail, consider Zimbra. Zimbra will offer you support and features very similar to Exchange with a much lower cost. Your end user devices won't know there is a difference. Somebody is going to come up with certain experiences they've had running Exchange, or Qmail, or $whatever. That's fine, you experience and opinions are no less relevant. Now I'm going to bow out, and maybe watch the carnage unfold after I finish making this new ansible/Juniper playbook :) On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Dennis Burgess < dmburg...@linktechs.net > wrote: > 1.. exchange is easy. > 2. why works great! > > > > > www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:52 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru > > [1] Good luck with getting it fixed > > [2] Get the fuck off exchange > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Gino Villarini < ginovi...@gmail.com > > wrote: >> thanks! >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm >> < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: >>> >>> Keith Willis with Progent >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Gino Villarini < ginovi...@gmail.com > >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We have a issue with our Exchange server. The database does not mount. >>>> Any recommendations for a Exchange Professional? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >>