In Vegas I asked Cambium about the difference in performance and the guy I talked to suggested it was a calibration issue on signal measurements.

Jerry Head wrote:
Cambium said "here try this new firmware!"
On 6/5/2016 3:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
All good information.  Appreciate your sharing.
Did Cambium have anything to say about it?

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Jerry Head <mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com>
    *To:* af@afmug.com
    *Sent:* Sunday, June 05, 2016 3:23 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

    RSSI?
    4-7dBm


    On 6/5/2016 1:17 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
    > What was the average signal difference?
    >
    > Jerry Head wrote:
    >> It absolutely does perform worse on the same link, we just
    helped a
    >> friend move an entire site from UBNT to epmp to make use of
    the sync
    >> capabilities. We actually had to transfer about 15% of the
    customers
    >> to 900 because they would not work at all on epmp.
    >>
    >> On 6/2/2016 4:31 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
    >>> But does it actually perform worse that UBNT 2.4ghz on the same
    >>> link, or is it maybe just differences in how they calculate
    signal
    >>> levels? It doesn't make any sense that two different radios
    running
    >>> on the same frequency putting the same amount of power into
    the same
    >>> antennas would give significantly different signal levels...
    >>>
    >>> The closest thing I've done to a comparison was playing with
    a Force
    >>> 200 2.4ghz in wifi mode... there didn't seem to be a significant
    >>> difference between it and a PowerBeam connecting to the same AP.
    >>>
    >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman
    >>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
    <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
    <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>     And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels, Force 200 2.4,
    >>>     integrated + reflector for CPEs. Continues to suck.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>     Josh Luthman
    >>>     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    >>>     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    >>>     1100 Wayne St
    >>>     Suite 1337
    >>>     Troy, OH 45373
    >>>
    >>>     On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof
    <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>         I’m thinking more the CPE antennas.
    >>>         *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
    <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
    >>>         *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59 PM
    >>>         *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    >>>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
    >>>         hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're
    >>>         using kp performance.  With epmp, i think it is bundled
    >>>         antennas...
    >>>
    >>>             ----- Original Message -----
    >>>             *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
    >>>             *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    >>>             *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM
    >>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
    >>>             Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be
    >>>             mainly in the antennas.  2.4 GHz from any vendor
    should
    >>>             penetrate the same, the radio waves don’t care
    what brand
    >>>             radio launched them.  And I think the difference
    between
    >>>             the platforms will be most evident in low
    interference
    >>>             environment where they can achieve their full
    modulation
    >>>             and throughput. With low SNR, I think it’s kind
    of like
    >>>             arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off road racing,
    neither
    >>>             will be able to show off its capabilities. Receiver
    >>>             sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter.
    >>>             *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
    <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
    >>>             *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM
    >>>             *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    >>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
    >>>             Also interested in interference rejection of the
    pmp450
    >>>             - is there any (in 2.4)
    >>>             we are getting better foliage penetration with
    ubnt 2.4
    >>>             than epmp 2.4 - - and from the performance of
    >>>             the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better!
    >>>
    >>>                 ----- Original Message -----
    >>>                 *From:* Matt <mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
    >>>                 *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    >>>                 *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM
    >>>                 *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
    >>>                 We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed. Some
    >>>                 Ubiquiti we tried and
    >>>                 some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we
    have
    >>>                 tested but so far
    >>>                 have not deployed more then couple test links.
    >>>
    >>>                 For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450
    what
    >>>                 are the differences
    >>>                 you have seen in performance? Interference
    tolerance
    >>>                 among others?
    >>>
    >>>                 For those that have gone with PMP450 over
    ePMP what
    >>>                 was the reasoning?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >



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