Yes...I considered that...this is in nascent stage.....I am not going to
offer ideas or suggestions unless I am hired to consult.    The current
SCADA boss might be leaving to Western Refinery...so things are on hold....
On Jun 9, 2016 11:10 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

The existing antennas though are single pol, if they are wanting to go
broadband with new radios, I would think dual pol.

I would not recommend any frequency converted (900 and 3650 MHz) Ubiquiti
radios, they seem to have a variety of problems, also unlikely to have any
development thrown at them going forward.

In any case, their existing 900 MHz SCADA stuff will likely interfere
heavily with any new 900 MHz radios they try to put at the same site, so a
graceful upgrade may be impossible anyway.


*From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:32 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...


I would recommend 11GHz for ptp...I would test the Cambium and Ubiquiti 900
since antennas are in place...but I am thinking of LTE MuMimo solutions as
well..  with all the tanks they have I would reduce long links to closest
one...right now most shoot to one tank....the original 1993 design is
obsolete
On Jun 9, 2016 8:07 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Maybe 4.9 GHz LOS links between towers, and Cambium PMP450i and PTP450i in
> 900 MHz for the NLOS links?
>
> As long as they stick with cameras that have reasonable BW requirements.
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:52 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] If it was you...
>
>
> 4.9 is not a good option due to existing public safety links on both sides
> of border.    The new PLCs from Allen Bradley are IP based as well other
> gear they are now using. Also heard they are considering cameras at Wells
> not just boosters and wastewater.
> On Jun 9, 2016 7:43 AM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>
>> If they have to have the data throughput then I'd tell them to go with
>> 4.9 and leave the unlicensed guys alone. But, do they really need it? Is
>> this like using a backhoe to dig a fence post hole?
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Make sure the big ‘ol wall people want ends up blocking the RF? lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> While working at Storm Water site today, one of the water Co. SCADA guys
>>> came by... he discussed that they are looking at WiMax and also 4.9GHz to
>>> replace existing licensed 900mhz network for our 600 locations.  They are
>>> using MDS SD9 radios for MAS and LEDR for ptp.... they want to move up to
>>> faster Ethernet based radios.... I listened and offered no comments....I
>>> was not about to tell them about WiMAX or that our sister city has over 200
>>> 4.9GHz links in operation since 2010...I have ideas of what I would
>>> do...Some background.... .many  remote  links are NLOS...easy to do with
>>> their existing  5 Watt licensed radios and APs on 150 Ft elevated tanks or
>>> mountain.  ptp links are easy for most of east and lower valley because of
>>> tanks available and mountain locations....let's see what you gurus
>>> suggest....we are on border and it is very noisy in all bands.  I mean all
>>> bands
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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