I'm not arguing with you, it's posted info by the respective ISPs. A single ip is expensive, a small block is cheaper per IP. This is called economy of scale.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Tim Reichhart <timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: > Josh > the retail pricing for static IP for TWC is not 20 dollars because 13 statics > is about 50 dollars per month which it comes down to about 4 dollars per IP > and signal IP is about 10-15 dollars. Frontier 5 statics is about 20 dollars > on business DSL. > > -----Original Message----- >> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Date: 08/09/16 02:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? >> >> Your comment was that the "bulk of broadband providers" are in the "$3 >> - $5" range. >> >> I countered that with up to date (as up to date as I could find) >> pricing with over 90% of the US broadband market, with some of that >> pricing having been consistent since 2011. >> >> *shrug* >> >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> wrote: >> > and also look at the pricing on a /29 ... >> > IPv4 pricing is not linear, cause how they assign it. >> > >> > I am not sure what were talking about anymore.. >> > >> > The original discussion was in regards to Wholesale / Bulk Ip lease and >> > not Retail give me an IP for one end user cost price. >> > >> > Retail price has a few more things built into it... especially cost >> > processing (labor) management and tracking.. >> > >> > Regards. >> > >> > Faisal Imtiaz >> > Snappy Internet & Telecom >> > 7266 SW 48 Street >> > Miami, FL 33155 >> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> > >> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:19:22 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? >> > >> >> Comcast (may be old pricing): $15 / mo >> >> Comcast business: $20 / mo >> >> AT&T: $15 - $40 / mo >> >> Verizon Wireless: $500 "one time setup fee" (ZOINKS!, that is the >> >> wireless division though...) >> >> Verizon FIOS: $20 / mo (depends on bundling options, it's actually >> >> more expensive on the higher plans!, see here: >> >> https://www.verizon.com/smallbusiness/products/business-FiOS-Internet/packages/ >> >> ) >> >> CenturyTel: has had $20 / mo pricing since 2011 and possibly before: >> >> https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25926181-CenturyTel-20-per-month-fee-for-single-static-IP-address-seem >> >> CenturyLink (Qwest network): $10 / mo with $75 setup fee >> >> Time Warner: $20 / mo >> >> Google Fiber: $20 for 1 /mo, $30 for 5 / mo >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, but that is direct retail side, and that is most likely reflective >> >>> of >> >>> internal policy.. (running server on a static IP)... thus getting a >> >>> premium >> >>> for that type of use. >> >>> >> >>> Bulk of the broadband providers are still in the $3 to $5 / ip range. >> >>> >> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >> >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >> >>> Miami, FL 33155 >> >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >>> >> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> >>> To: af@afmug.com >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:17:45 AM >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? >> >>> >> >>> The residential ISPs have been preparing for this by charging up to >> >>> $30/Mo >> >>> :( see Google. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Aug 9, 2016 8:54 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> yeah, projections from the same folks who create stock market bubbles ! >> >>>> LOL!, there is no shortage of folks making up numbers as needed. >> >>>> >> >>>> Logically speaking, look at the trending lease price, in the range of $1 >> >>>> to $2 /ip /month... which would give a very good clue on purchase price. >> >>>> >> >>>> For a $300 to $500 per IP valuation, the ongoing lease rate would need >> >>>> to >> >>>> be in the $10/$20 /month range. Which I have a hard time visualizing... >> >>>> >> >>>> Retail rental/lease from Upstream IP transit providers is still running >> >>>> somewhere between Free to less than $3-$5/ip/month. Depending on the >> >>>> ARPU of >> >>>> the BW purchase. >> >>>> >> >>>> my 2.5 cents worth. >> >>>> >> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >> >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >> >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >> >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >>>> >> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >>>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> > From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> >>>> > To: af@afmug.com >> >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:55:42 AM >> >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? >> >>>> >> >>>> > Reasonable projections (IMO) I have seen are $30 to $40 per IP. I have >> >>>> > seen some projections talking $100-$200 per IP. This is a one time fee >> >>>> > though, not including RIR transfer and annual fee (much smaller than >> >>>> > the cost of the block, based on total allocations to you). >> >>>> > >> >>>> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Kurt Fankhauser >> >>>> > <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> $13 per IP on a /24 ???? wow..... >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> He created a toaster?? LOL >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> https://postscapes.com/internet-of-things-history/ >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> Travis >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> On 8/8/2016 8:53 PM, Robert wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> He can afford to wait a long time.... He was the developer of the >> >>>> >>> first >> >>>> >>> of one of the major devices on the internet. >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> On 8/8/16 5:24 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> As in a /16 ? he’ll be waiting a long time in my opinion …. (could >> >>>> >>> be >> >>>> >>> dead wrong there) >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> I monitor prices every so often to “check in” and see what the >> >>>> >>> market >> >>>> >>> is >> >>>> >>> doing … seen prices drop in the past few months, not sure why – >> >>>> >>> guessing >> >>>> >>> that it’s because the market is slowing down and/or there are more >> >>>> >>> blocks >> >>>> >>> coming available >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert >> >>>> >>> Sent: August 8, 2016 7:39 PM >> >>>> >>> To: af@afmug.com >> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> A friend of mine has an unused Class B... But he's going to wait >> >>>> >>> for >> >>>> >>> $300-500 pricing... LOL... >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> On 8/8/16 3:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> besides ip auctions.com Anyone knows of of ip address sources for >> >>>> >>> buying? >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> > >
