I can run a WISP by myself, (have been for 12 years), no way to do fiber
without any employees. First two good employees is going to cost what?
$100k/year? I'm gonna keep on doing it this way as long as i can!!!
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> A bunch of folks on this list doing fiber with very few employees.
> Wireless is and always will be ersatz fiber at best.
>
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>
> I looked into doing fiber a couple years back but was too cost prohibitive
> and was going to require too many employees. Glad I waited because now it
> looks like we can get fiber type speeds over wireless with some of the new
> radios coming out. Plus you wont have to worry about someone cutting your
> fiber! I really did not want to own plant that was in the public right of
> ways. Now i can keep on my plant on private property.
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My grampa used to say "you can't put 10 lbs of shit in a 2 lb bag"..... I
>> didn't realize there were other variants :)
>>
>> The camel thing is used in the bible as a metaphor for something nearly
>> impossible. "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
>> than for a rich man to go to heaven"....or something to that effect. (I
>> hope nobody here has gotten too rich, we want to see you on the other side).
>>
>> I imagine Reynolds understands the metaphor, but not the application of
>> it. He may be right to question it. Google has probably weighed the
>> options. .
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: 8/10/2016 1:36:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>
>>
>> You can't put 12 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag.
>>
>> You can't get 100 gbps in ~100 MHz of spectrum.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have looked this phrase up, but I still don't understand it.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>> > They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel
>>> through
>>> > the eye of a needle.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM
>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>> >
>>> > So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your
>>> WISP.
>>> >
>>> > We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in
>>> > the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the best
>>> > RF engineering talent in the world on their payroll?
>>> >
>>> > They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, which
>>> > is evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most
>>> > appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a
>>> > couple hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing
>>> > the same thing too. It's the smart play.
>>> >
>>> > At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean "saying
>>> > they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies".
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> > <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Wait until they experience ducting ;)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: Bill Prince
>>> >> To: af@afmug.com
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>> >>
>>> >> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in
>>> San
>>> >> Jose.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone know anything about Webpass?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> bp
>>> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to
>>> >> fiber.
>>> >> Interesting times!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/google
>>> -fiber-delays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-
>>> instead/?comments=1
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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