I looked into doing fiber a couple years back but was too cost prohibitive
and was going to require too many employees. Glad I waited because now it
looks like we can get fiber type speeds over wireless with some of the new
radios coming out. Plus you wont have to worry about someone cutting your
fiber! I really did not want to own plant that was in the public right of
ways. Now i can keep on my plant on private property.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My grampa used to say "you can't put 10 lbs of shit in a 2 lb bag"..... I
> didn't realize there were other variants :)
>
> The camel thing is used in the bible as a metaphor for something nearly
> impossible.  "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
> than for a rich man to go to heaven"....or something to that effect.  (I
> hope nobody here has gotten too rich, we want to see you on the other side).
>
> I imagine Reynolds understands the metaphor, but not the application of
> it.  He may be right to question it.  Google has probably weighed the
> options. .
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 8/10/2016 1:36:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>
>
> You can't put 12 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag.
>
> You can't get 100 gbps in ~100 MHz of spectrum.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have looked this phrase up, but I still don't understand it.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> > They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel
>> through
>> > the eye of a needle.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>> >
>> > So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your
>> WISP.
>> >
>> > We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in
>> > the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the best
>> > RF engineering talent in the world on their payroll?
>> >
>> > They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, which
>> > is evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most
>> > appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a
>> > couple hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing
>> > the same thing too. It's the smart play.
>> >
>> > At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean "saying
>> > they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies".
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
>> > <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wait until they experience ducting ;)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Bill Prince
>> >> To: af@afmug.com
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>> >>
>> >> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in
>> San
>> >> Jose.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone know anything about Webpass?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> bp
>> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >>
>> >> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to
>> >> fiber.
>> >> Interesting times!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/
>> google-fiber-delays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless
>> -instead/?comments=1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>

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