Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

[Adam Moffett]

My grampa used to say "you can't put 10 lbs of shit in a 2 lb bag"..... 
I didn't realize there were other variants :)

The camel thing is used in the bible as a metaphor for something nearly 
impossible.  "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a 
needle than for a rich man to go to heaven"....or something to that 
effect.  (I hope nobody here has gotten too rich, we want to see you on 
the other side).

I imagine Reynolds understands the metaphor, but not the application of 
it.  He may be right to question it.  Google has probably weighed the 
options. .



------ Original Message ------
From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 8/10/2016 1:36:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?

You can't put 12 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag.

You can't get 100 gbps in ~100 MHz of spectrum.


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On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:
I have looked this phrase up, but I still don't understand it.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
wrote:
> They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel 
through
> the eye of a needle.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>
> So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your 
WISP.
>
> We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies 
in
> the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the 
best
> RF engineering talent in the world on their payroll?
>
> They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, 
which
> is evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most
> appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a
> couple hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be 
doing
> the same thing too. It's the smart play.
>
> At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean 
"saying
> they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies".
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wait until they experience ducting ;)
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bill Prince
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave?
>>
>> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least 
in San
>> Jose.
>>
>> Anyone know anything about Webpass?
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>
>> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative 
to
>> fiber.
>> Interesting times!
>>
>>
>> 
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/google-fiber-delays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instead/?comments=1
>>
>>
>