yeap 3.5 its in google head but it would not be a google fiber replacement like 60 ghz
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: > what do you pay these contractors and for what work? > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> > wrote: > >> Yes? (pops head out of hole) >> >> >> >> I am the only employee, everyone else is contracted. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:36 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> Yep, ask Sterling. >> >> >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:27 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> Contractors? >> >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I can run a WISP by myself, (have been for 12 years), no way to do fiber >> without any employees. First two good employees is going to cost what? >> $100k/year? I'm gonna keep on doing it this way as long as i can!!! >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> A bunch of folks on this list doing fiber with very few employees. >> >> Wireless is and always will be ersatz fiber at best. >> >> >> >> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> >> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:14 PM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> I looked into doing fiber a couple years back but was too cost >> prohibitive and was going to require too many employees. Glad I waited >> because now it looks like we can get fiber type speeds over wireless with >> some of the new radios coming out. Plus you wont have to worry about >> someone cutting your fiber! I really did not want to own plant that was in >> the public right of ways. Now i can keep on my plant on private property. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> My grampa used to say "you can't put 10 lbs of shit in a 2 lb bag"..... I >> didn't realize there were other variants :) >> >> >> >> The camel thing is used in the bible as a metaphor for something nearly >> impossible. "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle >> than for a rich man to go to heaven"....or something to that effect. (I >> hope nobody here has gotten too rich, we want to see you on the other side). >> >> >> >> I imagine Reynolds understands the metaphor, but not the application of >> it. He may be right to question it. Google has probably weighed the >> options. . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> >> Sent: 8/10/2016 1:36:38 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> You can't put 12 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag. >> >> >> >> You can't get 100 gbps in ~100 MHz of spectrum. >> >> >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >> I have looked this phrase up, but I still don't understand it. >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> > They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel >> through >> > the eye of a needle. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM >> > To: af@afmug.com >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> > >> > So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your >> WISP. >> > >> > We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in >> > the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the best >> > RF engineering talent in the world on their payroll? >> > >> > They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, which >> > is evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most >> > appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a >> > couple hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing >> > the same thing too. It's the smart play. >> > >> > At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean "saying >> > they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies". >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller >> > <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Wait until they experience ducting ;) >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Bill Prince >> >> To: af@afmug.com >> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> >> >> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in >> San >> >> Jose. >> >> >> >> Anyone know anything about Webpass? >> >> >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> >> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >> >> >> >> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to >> >> fiber. >> >> Interesting times! >> >> >> >> >> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/ >> google-fiber-delays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless >> -instead/?comments=1 >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
