I'll say right now that the wall will not be built. Oh maybe they will
put up a piece of it, but when it comes to funding the amount of money
it would take, I'm betting that they will back off that one.
Strike one.
Dismantle ACA. Well, maybe, but what are they going to tell the
22,000,000 people that are getting health insurance that wouldn't
otherwise? What are they going to do about pre-existing conditions? I
bet they might do something "different", but a wholesale dismantling I
think will not happen.
Strike two.
Restore the coal industries and all the jobs associated with it. Not
going to happen. Coal is on a downward spiral regardless of any
toothless proclamations.
Strike three.
Restore jobs to the rust belt and bring jobs back into the US. See
above. No proclamations by the ivory tower is going to change the
economics of those businesses. You tell me what a president can do to
change this. I don't see any changes coming.
Strike four.
Impose tariffs with China. Oh please. All the stuff all the lower income
folks buy in Walmart come from China. How are they going to like the
massive increase in prices that would entail? Further, China would
likely retaliate, and then our exports would go down as well. Yeah,
that's a winning strategy.
Strike five.
I could go on and on. This next four years is going to be worse than the
previous 16.
bp
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On 11/10/2016 8:17 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote:
Defend their country? With syria this is complicated. Depending on
where you live and what your religion is you are on one of the many
sides. Many died without the knowledge what side killed them.
Our wall was there for a long time. Language was the same but … To
bring the eastern back online was **very** expensive and it is still
not done.
A wall seperate humans. In Europe you travel without walls. I drive
through austria to italy only stopped by these guys who want money for
travelling over their roads. A spain could come to us and work. A lot
of Bulgarian work in other european countries. The income in bulgarian
is comparable to mexicans.
Germany always pay money for Europe. Eastern countries get money until
they close up. You should see how and where e.g. VW produces cars and
parts. But they also sell into these countries.
On the long run it makes sense to partner with your neighbors. Even if
you think your neighbor has the bigger benefit.
*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
/sarcasm
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49
*An:* af@afmug.com
*Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
I dont understand it, we built a boatload of ebola camps in africa
that are unused, why not stage the refugees there while theyre vetted.
99 percent of them are good folks, they need to get out of the
warzone. Men of fighting age should be the lowest priority for
resettlement since theyre choosing not to defend their country, you
cant really blame them since they dont have the resources to do so though.
germany had a wall that isolated its citizens from one another, quite
a difference between that and a border wall.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net
<mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:
We got 1,000,0000 refugees within 12 month. As you know germany is
a lot smaller than US... A refugee is not neccesary there to stay
forever. You help him to stay alive and as his country comes back
to "normal" you ask him to go back.
You should look at the situation of these people and consider
yourself and your family in this situation.
Best would be to help neighbor countries to be able to help, so
people do not need to travel this far (and it is a lot cheaper to
help). In fact there are a lot of syrian in neighbor countries
which need help themselfes.
But sorry your president will bomb someone to hell and build walls
(remember we are happy our wall was teared down not so long ago).
Did not hear "humanity" out of his mouth. But yes. America first.
Very selfish. We had the same discussions with England. They do
not like refugees, too. They dont like to be in Europe. They want
to stay on their own.
Is this where we all are heading to. Selfish countries which do
not like the others and let them alone?
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] Im Auftrag von Sam Morris
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:00
> An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics
>
> If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that
statement into
> question.
>
> On 11/9/2016 12:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> > Clinton said we can support
> > 600,000 syrian refugees today. Thats 6 percent today of the
> > undocumented population we could migrate into citizens...today
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