Defend their country? With syria this is complicated. Depending on where you 
live and what your religion is you are on one of the many sides. Many died 
without the knowledge what side killed them.



Our wall was there for a long time. Language was the same but … To bring the 
eastern back online was *very* expensive and it is still not done.



A wall seperate humans. In Europe you travel without walls. I drive through 
austria to italy only stopped by these guys who want money for travelling over 
their roads. A spain could come to us and work. A lot of Bulgarian work in 
other european countries. The income in bulgarian is comparable to mexicans.



Germany always pay money for Europe. Eastern countries get money until they 
close up. You should see how and where e.g. VW produces cars and parts. But 
they also sell into these countries.



On the long run it makes sense to partner with your neighbors. Even if you 
think your neighbor has the bigger benefit.







Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics



I dont understand it, we built a boatload of ebola camps in africa that are 
unused, why not stage the refugees there while theyre vetted. 99 percent of 
them are good folks, they need to get out of the warzone. Men of fighting age 
should be the lowest priority for resettlement since theyre choosing not to 
defend their country, you cant really blame them since they dont have the 
resources to do so though.



germany had a wall that isolated its citizens from one another, quite a 
difference between that and a border wall.



On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net 
<mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote:

We got 1,000,0000 refugees within 12 month. As you know germany is a lot 
smaller than US...  A refugee is not neccesary there to stay forever. You help 
him to stay alive and as his country comes back to "normal" you ask him to go 
back.
You should look at the situation of these people and consider yourself and your 
family in this situation.

Best would be to help neighbor countries to be able to help, so people do not 
need to travel this far (and it is a lot cheaper to help). In fact there are a 
lot of syrian in neighbor countries which need help themselfes.

But sorry your president will bomb someone to hell and build walls (remember we 
are happy our wall was teared down not so long ago). Did not hear "humanity" 
out of his mouth. But yes. America first. Very selfish. We had the same 
discussions with England. They do not like refugees, too. They dont like to be 
in Europe. They want to stay on their own.
Is this where we all are heading to. Selfish countries which do not like the 
others and let them alone?



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im 
> Auftrag von Sam Morris
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:00
> An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

>
> If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that statement 
> into
> question.
>
> On 11/9/2016 12:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> >  Clinton said we can support
> > 600,000 syrian refugees today. Thats 6 percent today of the
> > undocumented population we could migrate into citizens...today











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