Usually the equipment vendor will do the path calculations for you and can tell you what's feasible for a given link. And they'll set you up with a frequency coordinator who will find what channels are available.

6ghz not particularly harder.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/9/2017 2:21:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11GHz and 18GHz real throughput

What does it take to get licensed in 6 GHz? Is it more difficult to get that license that it is 11 GHz?

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Feb 9, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

In heavier rain zones, being able to use dishes as small as 3 ft in 6 GHz has been a game changer. Back when FCC minimum was 6 ft dish, that was not feasible on many sites, due to structural issues or tower rent. Rain fade much less of an issue at 6 GHz, but need to watch out for multipath similar to 5 GHz.





From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:49 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11GHz and 18GHz real throughput



What do you mean, not a chance at 18? If you can design for ACM and rain fade, yes. I know the typical afmug purchase considers them too pricey but there are lots of high quality, dual polarity 4' and 6' size 18 GHz dishes.

I would not be excessively scared of 15 miles at 18 GHz with big dishes.




On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

Not a chance at 18. Maybe 11, but that's even far for 11 GHz without huge dishes.

Play with Mimosa's designer, Cambium's LinkPlanner, etc.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP




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From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:38:58 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] 11GHz and 18GHz real throughput

Hi,

I've never yet done a licensed link and there is plenty of these two frequencies available in my area. I need to be able to get 500Mbps at about 15 miles. Is that possible with either of these?

What kind of real world speeds can I expect out of these and what channel size do I need to license to get those speeds?

Is there something else I should consider? What brand/model radios and dishes, what other frequencies for easier licensing, etc?

It would be great to be able to get a gig that distance, but I'm trying to be realistic and get just what I really need to start with.

No legal advice please, just your experience with it and any knowledge you'd be able/willing to share with the licensing of these frequencies.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield





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