I hope your really not trying to tell me about natural gas. It is pretty
common knowledge that declining G prices have made it the defacto choice of
power companies. One day that may not be the case. I know a guy with 6
wells on his property. They hit oil and NG. they burned over a million Cf
of gas pumping oil. There was no pipeline to carry it they had to burn it.
A real shame. Anyway, understand don't like coal. Maybe nobody but WV does.
I really don't care either way. I want cheap electricity. I would prefer
not to kill people or things in the process but if it is cheap enough and
they die voluntarily...ehhh.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:23 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm reminded of a quote attributed to Ben Franklin: "Democracy is two
> wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner."
>
> If you're moving a pipeline (or a power plant, or a railroad, or landfill,
> or whatever) to make one group happy, you are invariably putting the same
> burden on some other group.  They're probably going to be the "sheep" who
> in Franklin's example are just an outnumbered group who's opinion matters
> less specifically because they're outnumbered.  If we need pipelines and
> landfills, they are going to go *somewhere*.
>
> If we want completely fair and balanced choices, we might have to abandon
> democracy in favor of a completely rational despot.  Maybe we could put a
> computer in charge.
>
> ....not saying I really have any answers.  Just a cynical opinion.
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Carl Peterson" <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 2/17/2017 9:45:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...
>
> "Really?  Pipeline?  So you think carying all that oil via train is safer
> and has less a footprint? "
>
> In general, transport by pipeline is safer, but seems to do more
> environmental damage when something goes wrong.  Not the real point
> though.  The real issues are:
>
> 1) Is it in our best interest as a country to build a pipline across the
> US so an international conglomerate can sell Canadian oil overseas.
> On the face of it, I would say no but I could be missing something.  Seems
> to be a bunch of public risks with private profits.
>
> 2) How was the route chosen and were safer but more expensive routes an
> option.  If we reroute for group A and screw over group B, thats a serious
> issue.
>
>

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