It works...I guess if you are looking to manage it in their platform, that might be difficult, but all you need is a profile for it on the OLT.
Regards, Chuck On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:07 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I would not expect any random ONT to have full functionality. They might > workish... > > *From:* Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 11:56 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON > > So, other ONTs will work? The beta store is sold out of the Ubiquiti ONTs > every time I check. > > On Friday, March 31, 2017, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: > >> The UBNT equipment is plain GPON standard. Works on other GPON >> equipment. ZTE included. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck >> >> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Jason McKemie < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >> >>> I've got a couple reels of 3/8" steel cable. Definitely not light >>> stuff... >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett < >>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmmoff...@gmail.com');> wrote: >>> >>>> 1/4" steel cable + drop cable + jacketing >>>> >>>> 2+2 = 7 >>>> >>>> I'm sure that's not the bottom price, but it's not too far out of whack >>>> either. >>>> >>>> Figure-8 is also wicked heavy. The spool weight will surprise you. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> Sent: 3/29/2017 1:01:44 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>> >>>> >>>> Yikes, I've bought 72 strand ADSS for less than that. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The most recent quote I got was $0.83/ft. >>>>> It's way expensive, but no separate messenger strand. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> Sent: 3/29/2017 11:54:27 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gotcha. What sort of pricing are you getting on the 12 strand >>>>> figure-8? I've been using ADSS up to this point since I can get closer to >>>>> the neutral with it, but figure-8 might work in some new deployment >>>>> scenarios. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Figure-8 drop. >>>>>> >>>>>> Flat drop cable at $0.16/foot would certainly be cost attractive, but >>>>>> I assumed it can't go 500' aerial....some poles are that far apart. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>> From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> >>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>>> Sent: 3/29/2017 11:35:14 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Were you figuring on doing this lashed or just the flat drop cable? >>>>>> I've got a couple scenarios that I was looking at using 12ct flat drop, >>>>>> but >>>>>> the only way I can think of to get it in the air is by using wedge >>>>>> clamps. >>>>>> Not sure if these are good for the distance between some of the utility >>>>>> poles out there. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the idea is you can run a 12 strand aerial cable down a >>>>>>> rural road. Since you're using this skinny cable, you can use a $40 >>>>>>> closure to put a PON coupler in front of the customer prem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My quick estimate is the difference might be around $6,000 per >>>>>>> mile.....that changes with assumptions on how many houses are on that >>>>>>> mile >>>>>>> and so on....maybe $4k to $6k is fairer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't have pricing from Calix. I'm looking at Alphion...the ONT >>>>>>> is pretty close to a routerboard. The OLT is a lot more than a mikrotik >>>>>>> switch, but cost per customer port (assuming 1:16 PON) is on par with a >>>>>>> mid >>>>>>> grade switch. It's more than mikrotik, less than Juniper. I can't >>>>>>> share >>>>>>> numbers due to NDA, but that's the idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're looking at doing a whole rural town with 50 miles of road and >>>>>>> 300 households. I haven't gotten down to brass tacks yet, but on the >>>>>>> surface it seems like the savings is enough to buy a really nice bucket >>>>>>> truck. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>> Sent: 3/27/2017 5:33:06 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Years ago, there was a break even point on active vs PON. If you >>>>>>>> had 16 or more in an area that could take a PON it was worth doing the >>>>>>>> PON. >>>>>>>> But that was comparing Calix AE vs Calix PON. If you do AE like >>>>>>>> Sterling I don't think PON is ever cost effective compared to Calix >>>>>>>> PON. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With PON you still have to have a drop to each home. The cost of >>>>>>>> the cable is in the placement, not in the cable itself. >>>>>>>> So the question is, where do you place the splitter vs where do you >>>>>>>> place the switch and SFPs. Personally, I would do it Sterling style >>>>>>>> on new >>>>>>>> greenfield. The ONLY reason I do it with the expensive PON is we are a >>>>>>>> regulated common carrier with provider of last resort obligations. I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> to give POTS that is battery backed up, legally required to do this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cannot risk a 911 call not going through due to a power outage >>>>>>>> etc. Cannot trust the customer to not unplug a UPS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 3:11 PM >>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, so PON vs AE was actually the next research project for me to >>>>>>>> tackle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It seems like there ought to be savings with PON because of lower >>>>>>>> fiber >>>>>>>> count.....lower fiber count ought to lead to smaller/cheaper >>>>>>>> enclosures. >>>>>>>> Less junk at the head end too. I haven't gotten that far yet, but I >>>>>>>> was thinking I might "scrimp" with PON. You're saying maybe not? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> Sent: 3/27/2017 4:54:08 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be worried that it will go the way of some of their other >>>>>>>>> ideas. >>>>>>>>> Cheap... you get what you pay for. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FTTH, I would rather pay more and know it will be solid and be >>>>>>>>> around in the years to come. >>>>>>>>> Not an area where you want to scrimp. If you want to scrimp go >>>>>>>>> active ethernet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 12:56 PM >>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well....I have to build with what's available today. If I delay >>>>>>>>> to wait >>>>>>>>> for the next hot product, I'll always be waiting. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Besides, I honestly don't know what Ubiquiti brings to the table >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> other vendors don't. I suppose it will be cost competitive, but >>>>>>>>> that's >>>>>>>>> less important to me than having it just work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Adam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>>>> From: "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> >>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>> Sent: 3/27/2017 2:52:03 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With ubiquiti shipping real soon, you might want to wait >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jon Langeler >>>>>>>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 27, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I asked the Alphion sales rep about this. He says the optics >>>>>>>>>>> are coded, yes. As far as mixing ONT from one vendor with an OLT >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> another he said in essence GPON is a standard, but it isn't usually >>>>>>>>>>> tested >>>>>>>>>>> across vendors so whether it works fine, works with bugs, or >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work >>>>>>>>>>> at all is going to be a matter of chance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>>>>>> From: fiber...@mail.com >>>>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 3/23/2017 2:54:04 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Scale PON >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, generally speaking there is no crossvendor compatibility >>>>>>>>>>>> with GPON. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jared >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >
