We would just be porting, not moving an NXX.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers
Maybe you didn't read it. Maybe you don't know whay your talking about in this
specific instance. Maybe I don't. I am betting just this once it's you.
Unless you have been a carrier in a remote rate center trying to get those
NXX's somewhere else you may not be aware how this works.
You can't port an NXX. You have to modify the LERG and assign those numbers to
a different CLI. You can't, or at least didn't use to be able to do that,
without paying transport fees. Last time I tried it they refused, as is their
right, to do it with anything other than T1's or DS3 which they would happily
sell me. Of course I think Chuck would only have to pay the part of the circuit
outside his rate center.
In short, if you want to send an NXX somewhere, hook some Adtran boxes to your
class 5 and route the NXX to it then send them wherever you like. That's the
easiest solution and likely the cheapest long term.
Voip is way easier than circuit switched. I don't know why Chuck doesn't just
get some voip solution and did it himself. Freepbx, NetSapiens, ipifony,
Dialogic. There are so many.
Ten again maybe your just sick of the distraction which I can completely
understand.
On Wed, May 31, 2017, 8:11 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
He's not asking for anything special, other than the ratecenter he wants
covered.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:37:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers
NetSapiens does software. We have about 25 NXX's assigned to us. There is no
way a standard voip provider can do what you want Chuck. You have to have
somebody with an A-Z code and class 5 switch like you have. You then have to
reassign that block to that switch. You then have to route that to something
that can turn it into voip. Your switch can I guess, I am sure you know. If
outside your LATA you have to pay mileage. I think you are the only one in your
LATA right?
Anyway. Call me If you want to talk about it Chuck. I saw someone on a voip
list asking how to do this and describing your exact circumstances. I am
guessing you talked to someone about it today.
On Wed, May 31, 2017, 11:20 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
NetSapiens does equipment, not service.
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The Brothers WISP
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From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers
CTI uses NetSapiens as do some others. They are a bit more expensive than
some alternatives but if they do what they said they would do (handle 100% of
all porting) that can be worth a bit depending on how big an ass your losing
carrier wants to be. If this is going to be a main revenue source I would tell
you to go ahead and go direct to NS. If not, probably a pretty good deal.
Others on this list, Like Chuck Bender, might make you a better deal depending
on what you want.
I don't do any residential but a key to VoIP success up front is to limit
the number of devices you support. I choose to only support 3 phones and one
fax. I don't do ATA's at all. Trunks I handle with Adtran only.
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:58 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I am using the CTI white label solution and it is very reliable, biggest
plus is no hardware and servers to maintain in my office. Its all cloud based.
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:
I waited for Ooma since last WISPAPALOOZA. Finally gave up and
partnered with a company last week.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rob Genovesi
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers
Ooma has launched a partnership programs with ISPs. It's not fully
white label as it requires the customer to use Ooma equipment (which means you
can't use your own ATA). An interesting option for anyone looking to add VOIP
service without any overhead.
We're not doing this (yet) but have talked to Ooma a few times. If you
want more info contact Tim Sullivan: tim.sulli...@ooma.com.
Rob Genovesi • Coastside.Net • Owner
650-712-5900 • 525B Obispo Rd • Half Moon Bay CA
On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> OK, then quote me white label hosted voip.
>
> From: Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:27 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers
>
> Okay so that's not wholesale voip as telecom sales people would
> usually define it. Wholesale usually meaning you connect your own SIP
> server and run the traffic through a trunk, or set of trunks to
> different providers based on optimal routing to destination. What
> you're looking for is usually called white label hosted voip.
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Each ATA will register to the VOIP supplier.
>>
>> No, I already have a VoIP server called a GenBand Class 5 central
>> office switch.
>> I will not be using that for this service.
>>
>> From: Eric Kuhnke
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:59 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers
>>
>> I think you may misunderstand VoIP.... This is a gross
>> oversimplification but in general an ATA speaks analog POTS/dialtone
>> on one side, and ethernet/IP and SIP on the other. Do you intend to
>> have each the ATAs connect individually, directly to the service
>> provider, or do you plan to run your own VoIP server which they will
register to?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Not looking for SIP trunking. The calls will come from and go to an
>>> ATA in the subscribers home.
>>>
>>> From: Eric Kuhnke
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:47 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP Providers
>>>
>>> How many DIDs and how many minutes/month of SIP trunking are we
>>> talking about? You're looking for a whoelsale SIP trunking provider
>>> to use with your own VoIP system, or you want it fully hosted?
>>>
>>> What kind of monthly spend are you looking at if you took all of
>>> your minutes/month and figured that via wholesale SIP trunk they
>>> might cost an average of 7/10ths of 1 cent per minute (0.007/min)?
>>>
>>> Voxbeam, Flowroute and Voip Innovations come to mind.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I need a wholesale voip provider to serve my ILEC territory in
>>>> Utah. I would port my local 801-789 numbers to the VOIP provider.
>>>>
>>>> We need unlimited LD and solid 911. Would prefer someone local.
>>>>
>>>> So, before I give XMission a call I thought I would put this out
there.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
