Lol, i noticed the cat 6 thing in the guide, with indoor cat6

On Aug 17, 2017 6:55 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

>
> i once had a mimosa tech support guy help us out.  we had a link that just
> didn't modulate like other links....but one thing i saw him do was turn the
> power down.  it surprised me a bit.   this was on a b5/b5c.
>
> i wonder if that is a mimosa thing...like cat6 is apparently a mimosa
> thing.  don't get me wrong, i love my mimosa b5/b5cs, but i may be very
> close to needing even more bandwidth than my 2x80 can give me and may be
> looking at 11 gig....
>
> so reading this carefully...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>
> B11 just isn't solid enough for me. I've installed 4 links for other
> people with a few being short (like 3 miles) and they would not modulate
> well without turning the power down significantly.
> One 10 mile short we did works with the power turned down but is cuts in
> to the SNR and we need that to survive rain. They just act quirky to me.
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Sure, it also has greater potential throughput and an SFP cage.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:46:17 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>>
>> Just went through their costing page.  More than an AF11x system.
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:32 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>>
>> List is $2k, available for less.
>>
>> http://www.balticnetworks.com/mimosa-b11-starter-kit-with-11
>> ghz-antennas.html
>>
>>
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>> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:28:46 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>>
>> What is the cost of a B11 radio?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rory Conaway
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:12 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>>
>> It's a WiFi based chipset but that has nothing to do with the modulation
>> being all over the place for no apparent reason.  That's simply not true
>> Matthew and has nothing to do with the chipset or the PHY layer.  If the
>> link is calculated correctly and installed correctly, that is simply not
>> the
>> case.  Every single radio out there adapts to a changing environment
>> because
>> if they didn't, they would disconnect when conditions got below the link
>> specifications.
>>
>> I've got several up, one at 50 miles so we have some experience with the
>> radios.  I’m upgrading it to Cambium 820's shortly simply because I want
>> more bandwidth but the radio costs are 5 times higher and we put them in
>> a
>> year ago.  However, other B11's we have in place have been flawless as
>> well
>> as our Dragonwaves and Siklus.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
>> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 11:49 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says
>>
>> On 8/17/17 11:33, Mathew Howard wrote:
>> > I think the point is, on a B11 link (well, both of ours, anyway), the
>> > modulation will be all over the place at any given time for no
>> > apparent reason. Every other licensed radio I've ever used will sit at
>> > full modulation (or whatever it's supposed to be at) unless there's
>> > something wrong with it, or there's a major storm going through that
>> > causes enough fade for the signal level to drop. B11's tend to act
>> > much more like I would expect an unlicensed link to act.
>>
>> Isn't it just a wifi-based thing in a licensed band?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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