How far is your shot? What channel are you using? Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I disagree. We lose our IN link every time it rains. And the 5GHz does not fail over seemleasly at all. There is packet loss and high pings until the 60GHz finally dies. Then it sometimes flips. On Oct 19, 2017, at 17:56, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: If a bunch of folks deploy it and do so correctly, there won't be complaining. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:55:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I ain’t belivin nuthing until a bunch of folks have deployed this stuff and start complaining about it. Then we will have believable data. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:32 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq https://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet70/oet70a.pdf page 7 vs. page 15 ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net<mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:28:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Between 50-80GHz, oxygen attenuates the EM spectrum significantly more than water. Not to say that it doesn’t contribute at all to fade, but at 300 meters you’d probably only ever go down if Poseiden himself took offense to your client. http://windowsil.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/atm_absorption.gif Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq This link would be just under 300 meters. Will I ever go down for rain? ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 10/19/2017 4:17:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Yes, it's still an issue. To say otherwise is dumb. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:16:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Is rain fade an issue? I just read an article claiming that the atmospheric attenuation at 60ghz is so great that at any range where 60ghz will operate the rain fade is insignificant. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com<mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 10/19/2017 2:58:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq Yes, and the LR brackets. They should just drop the regular bracket and make everyone order the decent ones. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: At 1300m will I really need a scope to align it? ------ Original Message ------ From: "Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net<mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 10/19/2017 2:41:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a 1300 meter link on PTP60-35 radios doing -59/-61. Very happy with them. The mounts they come with are trash. Get the “long range” brackets and alignment scope. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq I have a microwave shot about 3 blocks long, so 60ghz seems like an option. Have any of you tried IgniteNet? Has it been reliable for you? I don't actually need a gigabit in this case, I just need it to be up. -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707
