For the record, birds don't "pee". Their #1 and #2 are combined into one
outlet, so they do something like 1-1/2 (neither 1 nor 2).

-bp

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Well hell, that is almost TMI.  I expected as such from this band.  Sounds
> like if they increase the sensitivity of the switchover mechanism it would
> be a contender.
>
> *From:* Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:38 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
> Let me back up.
>
> We lose our IN link every time a bird pees. It generally holds up during
> torrential down pours.
>
> Random fog events will cause it to become trashed.
>
> The link is .6 miles. I expected it to fade from time to time. The problem
> for me is the fail over does not happen properly.
>
> It's a gosh darn USB dongle attached to a reflector dish. Don't expect too
> much out of it.
>
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 18:28, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> How far is your shot?  What channel are you using?
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:26 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
>
>
> I disagree. We lose our IN link every time it rains. And the 5GHz does not
> fail over seemleasly at all.
>
>
>
> There is packet loss and high pings until the 60GHz finally dies. Then it
> sometimes flips.
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 17:56, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> If a bunch of folks deploy it and do so correctly, there won't be
> complaining.  ;-)
>
>
>
> -----
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:55:08 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
> I ain’t belivin nuthing until a bunch of folks have deployed this stuff
> and start complaining about it.  Then we will have believable data.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:32 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
>
>
> https://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/
> bulletins/oet70/oet70a.pdf
>
> page 7 vs. page 15
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
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>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:28:48 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
> Between 50-80GHz, oxygen attenuates the EM spectrum significantly more
> than water. Not to say that it doesn’t contribute at all to fade, but at
> 300 meters you’d probably only ever go down if Poseiden himself took
> offense to your client.
>
>
>
> http://windowsil.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/atm_absorption.gif
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2017 1:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
>
>
> This link would be just under 300 meters.  Will I ever go down for rain?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 10/19/2017 4:17:00 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
>
>
> Yes, it's still an issue. To say otherwise is dumb.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
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> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:16:09 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
> Is rain fade an issue?
>
>
>
> I just read an article claiming that the atmospheric attenuation at 60ghz
> is so great that at any range where 60ghz will operate the rain fade is
> insignificant.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>
> Sent: 10/19/2017 2:58:56 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
>
>
> Yes, and the LR brackets.  They should just drop the regular bracket and
> make everyone order the decent ones.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> At 1300m will I really need a scope to align it?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net>
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 10/19/2017 2:41:28 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
>
>
> I have a 1300 meter link on PTP60-35 radios doing -59/-61. Very happy with
> them. The mounts they come with are trash. Get the “long range” brackets
> and alignment scope.
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:12 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] IgniteNet Metrolinq
>
>
>
> I have a microwave shot about 3 blocks long, so 60ghz seems like an option.
>
>
>
> Have any of you tried IgniteNet?  Has it been reliable for you?
>
>
>
> I don't actually need a gigabit in this case, I just need it to be up.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
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>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
>
> (410) 637-3707
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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