you want i should leave the side door unlocked some night? On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> Ill take all your XL UPS > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Date: Monday, January 29, 2018 at 1:56 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion > > That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt > > SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that > > This is what most of our sites have (theres some depreciating ubnt sectors > too) > 4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48 > 4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24 > Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort > 1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic: SAF or Mimosa) > RB1100AHX2 (AC power) > HP 1810 24g switch (AC power) > > APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card > > > > > This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites > > 4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v > 4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v > 4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v > 2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS > 2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon) > 3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS > 1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS > 1x PTP 650/Cambium PS > 1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS > 1x RB1100AHX2/AC power > 1x HP 1810g 24/AC power > > APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card > > > the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have the battery budget > > > Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and branded power > supplies too. > > I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power supplies. > > Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent justified 450m but may > soon and we will roll some LTE in the near term which will add substantial > demand > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron < > david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote: > >> Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what Steve is asking >> for: >> >> >> >> Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source: $84 >> >> Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS: $37 >> >> Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2: $131 >> >> 24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime looking for >> >> Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350 (This is really the only >> expensive component) >> >> Heater: $65 >> >> Fan: $14 >> >> >> >> With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries, we figure we >> have several hours to get a generator to the site if power isn’t coming >> back. We run all POE from the Netonix, it works really well. Here are >> the other things we can do with the box: >> >> 1. Monitor temp in the cabinet >> 2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP DIN >> 3. Monitor voltage of the batteries >> 4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix >> 5. Monitor Current to the Netonix >> 6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries >> 7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees >> 8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees >> 9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN >> 10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the Netonix >> >> >> >> We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet. Usually a Hex POE (for >> small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites. >> >> >> >> We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15 more right >> now. While it might be a little more than what you were thinking, it >> gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment per site. >> >> >> >> Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all this with the Monitor Web2 >> settings and/or SNMP. Let me know if you are interested in pictures. >> For this second batch we have started using Terminal blocks to clean up the >> wiring, the cabinets look a little better, but we went to a smaller poly >> cabinet that makes things a little tight. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> David Coudron >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion >> >> >> >> You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix. If I had to do >> it now I'd go with the IDC switch. When we did our design, the idc didn't >> exist so we just went down to 24V off of our A and B sides and run a >> redundant powered 24V bus which all the netonix switches run on. >> >> >> >> I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all buy them all up. >> These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire btw. >> >> >> On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> A 12 port version would be nice. Looks like the 26 port version is $600. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> wrote: >> >> Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed (isolated dc)… >> >> >> >> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Baird < >> joshba...@gmail.com> >> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Date: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM >> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion >> >> >> >> Which Netonix are you running at - 48V? Or are you using an isolated >> DC/DC converter in between the -48V rectifier and Netonix? >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> wrote: >> >> Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf off Ebay ~$400 + 1 Netonix >> IDC Switch $400… all done. You can power 90% of WISP gear >> >> >> >> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Steve Jones < >> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Date: *Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM >> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant conversion >> >> >> >> Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more know small wisp >> budget interested in looking at our gear and power setup and giving >> realistic advice that doesnt have a 10 different 500 dollar components >> combined with a full time linux guy and a full time coder? >> >> >> >> Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart, but i do have >> some advisory busget. >> >> >> >> Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto runtimes on batteries >> coupled with having to accept we are destroying runtimes by letting the >> apcs die..... please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the >> facebook groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or ubnt forum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >
