Ill take all your XL UPS From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Monday, January 29, 2018 at 1:56 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion
That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that This is what most of our sites have (theres some depreciating ubnt sectors too) 4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48 4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24 Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort 1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic: SAF or Mimosa) RB1100AHX2 (AC power) HP 1810 24g switch (AC power) APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites 4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v 4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v 4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v 2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS 2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon) 3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS 1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS 1x PTP 650/Cambium PS 1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS 1x RB1100AHX2/AC power 1x HP 1810g 24/AC power APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have the battery budget Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and branded power supplies too. I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power supplies. Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent justified 450m but may soon and we will roll some LTE in the near term which will add substantial demand On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>> wrote: Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what Steve is asking for: Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source: $84 Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS: $37 Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2: $131 24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime looking for Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350 (This is really the only expensive component) Heater: $65 Fan: $14 With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries, we figure we have several hours to get a generator to the site if power isn’t coming back. We run all POE from the Netonix, it works really well. Here are the other things we can do with the box: 1. Monitor temp in the cabinet 2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP DIN 3. Monitor voltage of the batteries 4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix 5. Monitor Current to the Netonix 6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries 7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees 8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees 9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN 10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the Netonix We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet. Usually a Hex POE (for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites. We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15 more right now. While it might be a little more than what you were thinking, it gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment per site. Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all this with the Monitor Web2 settings and/or SNMP. Let me know if you are interested in pictures. For this second batch we have started using Terminal blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little better, but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that makes things a little tight. Regards, David Coudron From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix. If I had to do it now I'd go with the IDC switch. When we did our design, the idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V off of our A and B sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the netonix switches run on. I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all buy them all up. These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire btw. On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote: A 12 port version would be nice. Looks like the 26 port version is $600. On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed (isolated dc)… From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion Which Netonix are you running at - 48V? Or are you using an isolated DC/DC converter in between the -48V rectifier and Netonix? On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf off Ebay ~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch $400… all done. You can power 90% of WISP gear From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion Any of you folks who know both dc plant and even more know small wisp budget interested in looking at our gear and power setup and giving realistic advice that doesnt have a 10 different 500 dollar components combined with a full time linux guy and a full time coder? Id love you to do it out of the kindness of your heart, but i do have some advisory busget. Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super ghetto runtimes on batteries coupled with having to accept we are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs die..... please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to go to the facebook groups, and thats like going to a mikrotik or ubnt forum.
