"Failed logins" are also something Facebook collects.

There is a previous lawsuit where Zuck "hacked" some reporters emails via
using their failed login credentials to log into their email on record to
monitor a story against him/Facebook. (Story was about 7 years ago.)

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 3:10 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> Those people searches use the massive databases
> your IP is know, with location
> scouring public web data, maybe you posted to amfug, your IP may be
> present in an archive with your email address in a header
> youre email was registered at such and such
> etc
> big data on its own is invasive, thats without even accepting TOS
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They can for sure collect anonymous data even if you don't have an
>> account.
>> The IP for my house geocodes exactly to my house, that correlated with
>> other public records could be used to identify me even if I didn't have a
>> Facebook account.
>>
>> Hypothetically of course.  I have no idea what they really do.
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: 4/19/2018 3:59:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Facebook non-users
>>
>> I think "how is that done" "what is collected" "did I approve this" are
>> all questions that will only ever be answered by future subpoenas.
>> I would bet if using chrome to visit facebook, you share more than youd
>> prefer, google also has you accept a TOS
>> FB and google are thick as thieves
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> How is that done? I do not have a FB account at all. Sure I have
>>> occasionally viewed a FB page from someone, but I've never logged into any
>>> of their services. I stay as far away as possible. I don't twitter either.
>>>
>>> --
>>> bp
>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> yes you are, and he skirted that specific question may times because of
>>>> the liability in doing that without you having agreed to the TOS.
>>>> Alot depends on what level of access FB has outside its app, when you
>>>> accept terms on a mobile device you all but give FB ownership of your
>>>> phone, so every persons whos accepted the FB TOS is pretty much a Typhoid
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been casually following the FB bruhahah, and one of the topics
>>>>> that comes up is about whether FB follows what they call "non-users", but
>>>>> whenthey describe non-users, they refer to FB users that just aren't 
>>>>> logged
>>>>> in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I'm a non-user, but I don't have a FB account at all, nor do I
>>>>> use FB. Now I have occasionally followed a link to FB, but my interaction
>>>>> with their service could be described as "almost" non-existent. Am I a FB
>>>>> "non-user" or not. And if I am, what sort of data would they be collecting
>>>>> on me if I don't even go there or have an account?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> bp
>>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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