yep, we put it out there and leave breadcrumbs to find what we thought we hid
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:56 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > All the tracking cookies from sites know who you are and there are > profiles that FB, google and many others have on you. > > Do you use your phone number at he grocery store for the discounts? Well > that number can be cross referenced to a lot of other data about you freely > available on the web. > > https://www.zdnet.com/article/data-firm-leaks-48-million- > user-profiles-it-scraped-from-facebook-linkedin-others/ > > The web knows all about you! > > Sean > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:47 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But if I've never logged in, there would be no userid, no passwords. >> >> -- >> bp >> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >> >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> yeah, if you collected the passwords used, even incorrect usernames, you >>> can get alot of info. Other than fatfingering, people try every password >>> they use for anything >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Failed logins" are also something Facebook collects. >>>> >>>> There is a previous lawsuit where Zuck "hacked" some reporters emails >>>> via using their failed login credentials to log into their email on record >>>> to monitor a story against him/Facebook. (Story was about 7 years ago.) >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 3:10 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Those people searches use the massive databases >>>>> your IP is know, with location >>>>> scouring public web data, maybe you posted to amfug, your IP may be >>>>> present in an archive with your email address in a header >>>>> youre email was registered at such and such >>>>> etc >>>>> big data on its own is invasive, thats without even accepting TOS >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> They can for sure collect anonymous data even if you don't have an >>>>>> account. >>>>>> The IP for my house geocodes exactly to my house, that correlated >>>>>> with other public records could be used to identify me even if I didn't >>>>>> have a Facebook account. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hypothetically of course. I have no idea what they really do. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Sent: 4/19/2018 3:59:39 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Facebook non-users >>>>>> >>>>>> I think "how is that done" "what is collected" "did I approve this" >>>>>> are all questions that will only ever be answered by future subpoenas. >>>>>> I would bet if using chrome to visit facebook, you share more than >>>>>> youd prefer, google also has you accept a TOS >>>>>> FB and google are thick as thieves >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How is that done? I do not have a FB account at all. Sure I have >>>>>>> occasionally viewed a FB page from someone, but I've never logged into >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> of their services. I stay as far away as possible. I don't twitter >>>>>>> either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Steve Jones < >>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes you are, and he skirted that specific question may times >>>>>>>> because of the liability in doing that without you having agreed to >>>>>>>> the TOS. >>>>>>>> Alot depends on what level of access FB has outside its app, when >>>>>>>> you accept terms on a mobile device you all but give FB ownership of >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> phone, so every persons whos accepted the FB TOS is pretty much a >>>>>>>> Typhoid >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been casually following the FB bruhahah, and one of the >>>>>>>>> topics that comes up is about whether FB follows what they call >>>>>>>>> "non-users", but whenthey describe non-users, they refer to FB users >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> just aren't logged in. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well I'm a non-user, but I don't have a FB account at all, nor do >>>>>>>>> I use FB. Now I have occasionally followed a link to FB, but my >>>>>>>>> interaction >>>>>>>>> with their service could be described as "almost" non-existent. Am I >>>>>>>>> a FB >>>>>>>>> "non-user" or not. And if I am, what sort of data would they be >>>>>>>>> collecting >>>>>>>>> on me if I don't even go there or have an account? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>
