But if I've never logged in, there would be no userid, no passwords.
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> yeah, if you collected the passwords used, even incorrect usernames, you
> can get alot of info. Other than fatfingering, people try every password
> they use for anything
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Failed logins" are also something Facebook collects.
>>
>> There is a previous lawsuit where Zuck "hacked" some reporters emails via
>> using their failed login credentials to log into their email on record to
>> monitor a story against him/Facebook. (Story was about 7 years ago.)
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 3:10 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Those people searches use the massive databases
>>> your IP is know, with location
>>> scouring public web data, maybe you posted to amfug, your IP may be
>>> present in an archive with your email address in a header
>>> youre email was registered at such and such
>>> etc
>>> big data on its own is invasive, thats without even accepting TOS
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They can for sure collect anonymous data even if you don't have an
>>>> account.
>>>> The IP for my house geocodes exactly to my house, that correlated with
>>>> other public records could be used to identify me even if I didn't have a
>>>> Facebook account.
>>>>
>>>> Hypothetically of course. I have no idea what they really do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: 4/19/2018 3:59:39 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Facebook non-users
>>>>
>>>> I think "how is that done" "what is collected" "did I approve this" are
>>>> all questions that will only ever be answered by future subpoenas.
>>>> I would bet if using chrome to visit facebook, you share more than youd
>>>> prefer, google also has you accept a TOS
>>>> FB and google are thick as thieves
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How is that done? I do not have a FB account at all. Sure I have
>>>>> occasionally viewed a FB page from someone, but I've never logged into any
>>>>> of their services. I stay as far away as possible. I don't twitter either.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> bp
>>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Steve Jones <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yes you are, and he skirted that specific question may times because
>>>>>> of the liability in doing that without you having agreed to the TOS.
>>>>>> Alot depends on what level of access FB has outside its app, when you
>>>>>> accept terms on a mobile device you all but give FB ownership of your
>>>>>> phone, so every persons whos accepted the FB TOS is pretty much a Typhoid
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been casually following the FB bruhahah, and one of the topics
>>>>>>> that comes up is about whether FB follows what they call "non-users",
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> whenthey describe non-users, they refer to FB users that just aren't
>>>>>>> logged
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well I'm a non-user, but I don't have a FB account at all, nor do I
>>>>>>> use FB. Now I have occasionally followed a link to FB, but my
>>>>>>> interaction
>>>>>>> with their service could be described as "almost" non-existent. Am I a
>>>>>>> FB
>>>>>>> "non-user" or not. And if I am, what sort of data would they be
>>>>>>> collecting
>>>>>>> on me if I don't even go there or have an account?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
