I think multiple concepts are meshed in one conversation.
FB could certainly do photo recognition on content put on the site to develop a
profile on a particular unnamed, non-account-holding person. I'm sure they can
do other work to see how many times certain names are used in posts with that
unidentified person to guess their name. Stuff like that.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
To: "Motorola III" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 3:47:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Facebook non-users
But if I've never logged in, there would be no userid, no passwords.
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bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
wrote:
yeah, if you collected the passwords used, even incorrect usernames, you can
get alot of info. Other than fatfingering, people try every password they use
for anything
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
"Failed logins" are also something Facebook collects.
There is a previous lawsuit where Zuck "hacked" some reporters emails via using
their failed login credentials to log into their email on record to monitor a
story against him/Facebook. (Story was about 7 years ago.)
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 3:10 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote:
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Those people searches use the massive databases
your IP is know, with location
scouring public web data, maybe you posted to amfug, your IP may be present in
an archive with your email address in a header
youre email was registered at such and such
etc
big data on its own is invasive, thats without even accepting TOS
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote:
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They can for sure collect anonymous data even if you don't have an account.
The IP for my house geocodes exactly to my house, that correlated with other
public records could be used to identify me even if I didn't have a Facebook
account.
Hypothetically of course. I have no idea what they really do.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/19/2018 3:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Facebook non-users
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I think "how is that done" "what is collected" "did I approve this" are all
questions that will only ever be answered by future subpoenas.
I would bet if using chrome to visit facebook, you share more than youd prefer,
google also has you accept a TOS
FB and google are thick as thieves
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:
<blockquote>
How is that done? I do not have a FB account at all. Sure I have occasionally
viewed a FB page from someone, but I've never logged into any of their
services. I stay as far away as possible. I don't twitter either.
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bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >
wrote:
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yes you are, and he skirted that specific question may times because of the
liability in doing that without you having agreed to the TOS.
Alot depends on what level of access FB has outside its app, when you accept
terms on a mobile device you all but give FB ownership of your phone, so every
persons whos accepted the FB TOS is pretty much a Typhoid Mary
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:
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I've been casually following the FB bruhahah, and one of the topics that comes
up is about whether FB follows what they call "non-users", but whenthey
describe non-users, they refer to FB users that just aren't logged in.
Well I'm a non-user, but I don't have a FB account at all, nor do I use FB. Now
I have occasionally followed a link to FB, but my interaction with their
service could be described as "almost" non-existent. Am I a FB "non-user" or
not. And if I am, what sort of data would they be collecting on me if I don't
even go there or have an account?
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bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
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