All the tracking cookies from sites know who you are and there are profiles that FB, google and many others have on you.
Do you use your phone number at he grocery store for the discounts? Well that number can be cross referenced to a lot of other data about you freely available on the web. https://www.zdnet.com/article/data-firm-leaks-48-million-user-profiles-it-scraped-from-facebook-linkedin-others/ The web knows all about you! Sean On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:47 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > But if I've never logged in, there would be no userid, no passwords. > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> yeah, if you collected the passwords used, even incorrect usernames, you >> can get alot of info. Other than fatfingering, people try every password >> they use for anything >> >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >>> "Failed logins" are also something Facebook collects. >>> >>> There is a previous lawsuit where Zuck "hacked" some reporters emails >>> via using their failed login credentials to log into their email on record >>> to monitor a story against him/Facebook. (Story was about 7 years ago.) >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 3:10 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Those people searches use the massive databases >>>> your IP is know, with location >>>> scouring public web data, maybe you posted to amfug, your IP may be >>>> present in an archive with your email address in a header >>>> youre email was registered at such and such >>>> etc >>>> big data on its own is invasive, thats without even accepting TOS >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They can for sure collect anonymous data even if you don't have an >>>>> account. >>>>> The IP for my house geocodes exactly to my house, that correlated with >>>>> other public records could be used to identify me even if I didn't have a >>>>> Facebook account. >>>>> >>>>> Hypothetically of course. I have no idea what they really do. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Sent: 4/19/2018 3:59:39 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Facebook non-users >>>>> >>>>> I think "how is that done" "what is collected" "did I approve this" >>>>> are all questions that will only ever be answered by future subpoenas. >>>>> I would bet if using chrome to visit facebook, you share more than >>>>> youd prefer, google also has you accept a TOS >>>>> FB and google are thick as thieves >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How is that done? I do not have a FB account at all. Sure I have >>>>>> occasionally viewed a FB page from someone, but I've never logged into >>>>>> any >>>>>> of their services. I stay as far away as possible. I don't twitter >>>>>> either. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> bp >>>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Steve Jones < >>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> yes you are, and he skirted that specific question may times because >>>>>>> of the liability in doing that without you having agreed to the TOS. >>>>>>> Alot depends on what level of access FB has outside its app, when >>>>>>> you accept terms on a mobile device you all but give FB ownership of >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> phone, so every persons whos accepted the FB TOS is pretty much a >>>>>>> Typhoid >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been casually following the FB bruhahah, and one of the topics >>>>>>>> that comes up is about whether FB follows what they call "non-users", >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> whenthey describe non-users, they refer to FB users that just aren't >>>>>>>> logged >>>>>>>> in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well I'm a non-user, but I don't have a FB account at all, nor do I >>>>>>>> use FB. Now I have occasionally followed a link to FB, but my >>>>>>>> interaction >>>>>>>> with their service could be described as "almost" non-existent. Am I a >>>>>>>> FB >>>>>>>> "non-user" or not. And if I am, what sort of data would they be >>>>>>>> collecting >>>>>>>> on me if I don't even go there or have an account? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
