I was addressing you, Rob :) Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 5:56 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: > MP, were you addressing your comment at me, or Alan? If, at me, I could start > you off with an IEEE-reviewed document. The exact method in the white paper > is one of the many components that has to be programmed. > > Please let me know. > > Rob > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: MP via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> > Sent: Friday, 08 June 2018 8:34 AM > To: AGI > Subject: Re: [agi] The four things needed to solve AGI. > > Alan, would you be interested in emailing me these models? I’m an experienced > coder and would love to work on it. > > mindpixel at proton mail dot com > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI > <agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: > >> Alan >> >> Thank you for your response. I am in no way trying to challenge your >> personal research, or view. My questions are genuine and AGI related only. I >> do not agree with the view of some here who defend A.T. Murray's position by >> saying he at least does something. I agree with your view that it is simply >> not enough to just make an effort, therefore AGI would result. The true-AGI >> problem is many-fold more complex than we may even imagine. But all efforts >> may bring forth new inspiration. >> >> When compared to aspects of AGI being produced in robotic form today, I have >> no idea why Murray et al are trying to reinvent any one of the wheels that >> are clearly, already turning. It behooves progress to continually refine the >> real questions to be addressed, as you have obviously done. Perhaps, what >> would emerge from those efforts would find practical use?However, for its >> lack of structured debate between simple and complex systems, I would not be >> able to relate to it. That's my definitive view on Murray's world. >> >> I do not program anymore, but I have been designing computational theory for >> system of systems - to purpose - for a long time. AGI, as a holistic >> architecture, can be nothing less than a galaxy of deliberate system of >> systems, administered by at least 1, superpositioned system of systems. I >> have field tested my theoretical designs against real projects and with real >> people. The results have been accurate and reliable. The mature models are >> ready for programming. >> >> This is the intelligence (AGI) architecture I am referring to. In my view, >> it represents as a fully-recursive, adaptive, intelligence architecture (not >> intelligence bootstrapped), which would go a long way towards enabling AGI >> functionality, and beyond. Given the appropriate building blocks being put >> into place to operate within an intelligence architecture (world), the >> functionality you seek would in theory be able to evolve "naturally". Once >> programmed into a functional, matured, intelligent system, this may have >> potential to serve as a future, AGI hub, or docking station. Such is my >> theory. >> >> According to my analysis, a number of the key components of this >> intelligence architecture have already been programmed by other parties, >> eg., by CISCO, IBM, MS, GOOGLE, OPENCOG, and so many others in the big-wide >> world. Such progress serves to inform me that the overall architecture - >> formulating in my mind - still is on the right track. My passion continues >> as a hobby. I do it for the fun of it. I'm enjoying the journey. My purpose >> is not to compete with the efforts of others, but to indulge my life-long >> fascination and curiosity with the technological challenges presented by >> AGI, and beyond. >> >> In summary, the one thing needed to solve AGI is, in my opinion, still >> lacking in the public domain. >> >> Rob >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> From: Alan Grimes <alonz...@verizon.net> >> Sent: Friday, 08 June 2018 2:55 AM >> To: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI >> Subject: Re: [agi] The four things needed to solve AGI. >> >> Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI wrote: >>> Alan >>> >>> I suppose yo already possess a computational framework to process the >>> research you are proposing as being critical? In other words, I think >>> if you do not have the intelligence architecture, none of the >>> functionality would be agi effective. >> >> I'm missing a number of things that limits my ability to do this >> research myself. >> >> -> a GPU programming framework that actually works on my computer, >> preferably OpenCL for portability reasons... >> >> -> a simulation environment... Microsoft Malmo seems pretty close to >> what I want (bare minimum actually), I'll have to take a look at it >> again to see if I can make it run the way I need it to. >> >> -> Everything is in python these days, so I'll need a high quality >> manual for the python language. I don't think this documentation >> actually exists. In fairness, I haven't made a concerted effort to >> search for it recently. on-line courses in the subject only cover the >> whitespace-based nesting but basically ignores all other parts of syntax >> such as data definition and expression syntax. >> >> -- >> Please report bounces from this address to a...@numentics.com >> >> Powers are not rights. > > [Artificial General Intelligence List](https://agi.topicbox.com/latest) / AGI > / see [discussions](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi) + > [participants](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members) + [delivery > options](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups) > [Permalink](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T507c404b4595c71c-M1481899e6548ac6177abb850) ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T507c404b4595c71c-Mc414cf4476fee8c8b6f51bd8 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups
