Mike Sooner or later, someone will stumble upon the activating algorithms. From it will be born an artificial version of a prior intelligence and it would exist on a computational platform. I'm not sure how long it would take, but that is not relevant to my thinking. It will happen when it is meant to. I' d like to help the dream by inserting my part of research into an architectural blueprint. If we do not start, we'll never get there. I think I'm ready to depart on a conceptual and logical spec of version 0.1. Not all my own. Just doing the translation work.
Rob Archbold via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2018 10:27 PM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] E=mc^2 Morphism Musings... (Intelligence=math*cJohn et alonsciousness^2 ?) "Can you see the consciousness at work? Can you sense and immerse in it? Can you hear the myriad of messages clipping by? If so, you'll realize it is pervasive, endless, and not locality driven, not discrete. Like the waves of the ocean, the outcome of a whole universe conspiring to tell its tale." The above is pretty good. Actually that was basically where I was at last night when I decided AGI was impossible. A conclusion which I don't care about though... The problem is made worse with all the hype that leads people to believe the above is just thiiiiiiiis close to being automated. The enemy of the people here being the combinatorial explosion and the curse of dimensionality. On 9/12/18, John Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI <agi@agi.topicbox.com> >> >> Challenging a la Haramein? No doubt. But that is what the adventure is >> all >> about. Have we managed to wrap our minds fully round the implications of >> Mandelbrot's contribution? And then, there is so much else of science to >> revisit once the context of an AGI has been adequately " boundaried". > > Cheers to Mandelbrot not only for the math and science but for the great > related art and culture. and music even! Fractal music 😊 > >> Imagine if "we" could engineer that (to develop an ingenious >> consciousness- >> based engine), which the vast majority of researchers claim cannot be >> done? >> Except for lack of specific knowledge and knowhow and an inadequate >> resource base (for now), I see no sound reason why such a feat would not >> be >> possible. > > Big project 😊 > > IMO successful AGI will use consciousness functionally but won't call it > that since it causes so much hyperventilation. Researchers want > non-conscious AGI so it doesn't go rogue LOL. Hmmm wonder about that. Could > non-conscious go rogue anyway... and is non-conscious even possible. > > John > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T59bc38b5f7062dbd-Ma495ee95e88a041b853fd878 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
