On Mon, Sep 25, 2023, 2:15 AM Quan Tesla <quantes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I can't find one good reason why greater society (the world nations) would > all be ok with artificial control of their humanity and sources of life by > tyrants. > Because we want AGI to give us everything we want. Wolpert's law says that two computers cannot mutually model or predict each other. (Or else who would win rock scissors paper?) Prediction is a prerequisite for control. If you can't predict the effects of your actions, then you don't have control. Prediction is also a measure of intelligence. We want AGI to be intelligent so it can automate labor, but we also want to control it. You can't have it both ways. But what you can have is the illusion of control. To AGI, humans behave predictably, just like animals behave predictably to us. We also have the illusion of free will. Whenever you make a decision or take some action, you get a bit of positive reinforcement that makes you feel good about it. It doesn't matter that the action was the result of a deterministic algorithm running in your brain and a copy running on the internet. You want freedom of speech except for those who disagree with you? You can have it. You can say whatever you want, but AGI controls what you see and hear. Over the next century we will abolish prisons and handcuffs, just like we abolished slavery and more barbaric methods of government control like torture and most executions. In the US one out of 75 men are in prison and less than 2% of them were convicted in a trial because the legal system is so expensive and dysfunctional. It is more effective and less expensive to control people with reward than punishment. With AGI, we will have the means to do so. This will require surveillance, which we need anyway to train AGI models of our minds. Legalizing drugs, eliminating cash, and tracking all transactions will eliminate a lot of crime. When I joined this list about 20 years ago, most people here were working on software for symbolic or hybrid reasoning systems, while I warned that automating a $100 trillion per year global economy wouldn't be cheap. Now most of them have abandoned their projects and left the list while the big tech companies are solving AGI with neural networks and massive data sets on supercomputers. For those still here, what is there left to do? ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T206dd0e37a9e7407-M1b2d64c545d5d321648b7751 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
