Alan, Several people, whose opinions I respect, have asked me to unsub you from this e-mail list, because they perceive your recent e-mails as having a very low signal to noise ratio.
I prefer to be accepting, rather than banning people from the list. However, I'm going to have to ask you to cool it: post less often, make your posts shorter, think them through more carefully. I personally don't mind your e-mails -- though when they're very long like this last one I tend to delete them without reading them. But I don't want several valuable and knowledgeable list participants to quit the list out of annoyance at your posts... -- Ben Goertzel > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Alan Grimes > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [agi] Subordinant Intelligence > > > om > > ATTN: Members of the Singularity Action Group and board of directors. If > a representitive minority of the members of the singularity action group > (at least 1) does not show up in either #accelerating or #extropy on > irc.extropy.org by midnight Sunday, I will declare the Singularity > Action Group to be a farce and resign with disgust. > > The singularity action group can only exist if its membership, and > especially its board, is willing to participate regularly. There is much > important work to do such as what I outline in the balance of this > posting. > > om > > As you might know, I am very disturbed by the varrious writings of > Eliezier Yudkowsky and look on his attempts to create a "Friendly AI" > with more than a little suspicion and concern. I think the basic > philosophy of that approach is flawed in a number of ways and that the > final outcome will be far from optimal for humanity or at least our > romantic visions of our potential. > > For the reasons of offering the community and the world at large a > choice between AI approaches and to choose an approach that I find > vastly more agreeable to my personal philosophies I propose the > promotion of an AI structured based on a principle of subordination. > > A "subordinant AI" will be designed to submit to the will and expressed > desires of its creators without question, hesitation, or exception. > Regardless of how astranomicly high its IQ is, it still exists for only > one purpose, the service of humanity. While it will be well utilized in > helping us advance our philosophy and society, it will have utterly no > power or authority as a prime actor in such regards. > > Failing subordinant AI, we should work towards a "Peer AI" which will be > designed to interract as an equal citizen in society just as the star > athlete lives in peace with the criple. Such an AI would have all the > freedoms and responsibilities of any other citizen. As such an AI, > through its vast contributions to science, technology, and services is > likley to become immensely wealthy, it will be expected to make > investments in the form of grants and low-interest loans (or other > provision) for the furtherment of human endeavours. > > Should the Peer AI proove to be too alien to integrate into society, it > is necessary that it be designed such that it will have sufficient > respect for our desires for autonomy to simply vacate the planet and > select some place such as Jupiter with its lethal radiation fields as > its home. While such an AI would have no direct role in our society it > would provide benefits to the people of Earth through its continuing > participation in the scientific and engineering communities. > > The critical points here are these: > > 1. It respects the rights, individualitiy, and privacy of all humans by > _NOT INTERFERING WITH THEM_ in any way. On the other hand, it would be > available to people who wish to initiate a voluntary arangement with it. > > 2. THERE MUST BE NO SINGLETON. The AI should be built so that it doesn't > have any inherant lust for computronium nor any desire to dominate and > rule the universe. Only in the eventuality of a hostile AI should it > _OFFER_ its services as a military force in the task of holding the > other AI to a stalemate and hopefully peace. _THERE MUST BE MORE THAN > ONE_. > > 3. It must not have any tendancy to adopt wholeheartedly a single > philosophy or vision of the future. Under no circumstances should it > identify something equivalent to an "omega point" as the one ultimate > goal of intelligent life. Nor should it recognise any validity > whatsoever in any concept that one form of civilization is inherantly > superior to any other. (assuming the available technology is equal > across all civilizations.) -- A civilization which keeps its > ultratechnology in a trunk on the upper floor of the barn with the > horses and cattle is not one whit better or worse than a bunch of maniac > computer programs running around a few cubic centimeters of > computronium... (Although this author tends to prefer the former). > > > I think the initiation of a subordinant AI project under the Singularity > Action Group in competititon on every level, political, financial, and > technological, with the Singularity Institute for Artificial > Intelligence is the best and most responsible thing we can do. A 170 IQ > does not give a person the right to dictate the future, only the power. > > As people who are aware of this, it is our responsibility to act to hold > these brilliant idiots in check. > > I wish us all the best of luck. > > > PS: If a fully configured EV79 Alpha server can't achieve sentience then > AI is impossible. =) > > -- > I WANT A DEC ALPHA!!! =) > 21364: THE UNDISPUTED GOD OF ALL CPUS. > http://users.rcn.com/alangrimes/ > > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate > your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
