Eric: I claim that it is the very fact that you are making decisions about
whether to supress pain for higher goals that is the reason you are
conscious of pain. Your consciousness is the computation of a
top-level decision making module (or perhaps system). If you were not
making decisions waying (nuanced) pain against higher goals,
you would not be conscious of the pain.

Sure, emotions are designed to pressure the conscious self. But that whole setup makes no sense at all, if the conscious self is merely the execution of a deterministic program. It's a) unnecessary - deterministically programmed computers work perfectly well without having a conscious, executive self, and b) it's sadistic in the extreme, torturing and punishing a self which has supposedly gotta do what it's gotta do anyway. It's quite bizarre in fact.

Hence Fodor:

It's been increasingly clear, since Freud, that psychological processes of great complexity can be unconscious. The question then arises: what does consciousness add to what unconsciousness can achieve? To put it another way, what mental processes are there that can be performed only because the mind is conscious, and what does consciousness contribute to their performance? Nobody has an answer to this question for any mental process whatever. As far as anybody knows, anything that our conscious minds do, they could do just as well if they were unconscious. Why then did God bother to make consciousness. What on earth could he have had in mind? Jerry Fodor, article, You can't argue with a novel, London Review of Books, 4.3.2004

On the other hand, if the self is nondeterministically programmed, then everything makes sense. Then the system needs to pressure a continually wayward self, that keeps getting carried away on particular tasks , reminding it with emotions of the other goals and tasks it's ignoring. Back to work. Back to sleep. Or back to sex.


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