Ben: Anyway, I agree with you that formal logical rules and inference are not the end-all of AGI and are not the right tool for handling visual imagination or motor learning. But I do think they have an important role to play even so.
Just one thought here that is worth trying to express, although I'm still groping with it. When we talk about "imagination" we are usually referring to secondary and/or reflective acts of imagination. So when you make piano-playing movements, they are based on existing imaginative and body knowledge of how to make those movements. But our immediate, primary consciousness, from which that secondary knowledge is derived, and which is the foundation of an intelligent mind, is not actually a dissectible affair. Your (Ben) consciousness as you read this, or as you sit at the piano about to play, is the "imovie-in-and-around-the-mind" - a *common-sense* affair, involving vision-hearing-touch-smell-kinaesthetic-&-every-other sense, interacting integratedly and inseparably. Later, when you remember your actions, you can focus reflectively on one sense at a time - just remember, for example, what you saw, and ignore the other senses. But in reality it isn't possible to separate the senses (as Michael Tye has pointed out). The brain - and any intelligent mind that deals with the real world - needs the whole movie and not just, say, vision, as well as the "i" that is continually viewing it. No one in AGI is aiming for common sense consciousness, are they? ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=95818715-a78a9b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com