On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Aki Iskandar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Pei - > > What about having a tree like diagram that branches out into either: > - the different paths / approaches to AGI (for instance: NARS, Novamente, > and Richard's, etc.), with suggested readings at those leaves > - area of study, with suggested readings at those leaves
Yes, that is what I like. I know Ben would rather stress the similarity of the approaches, and merge all the lists into one, but I'd rather keep the difference visible. One reason is otherwise the list will be too long for anyone to follow. > Or possibly, a Mind Map diagram that shows AGI in the middle, with the > approaches stemming from it, and then either sub fields, or a reading list > and / or collection of links (though the links may become outdated, dead). > > Point is, would a diagram help "map" the field - which caters to the > differing approaches, and which helps those wanting to chart a course to > their own learning/study ? In principle, yes, but a diagram with many text in it tends to look confusing. After we get the lists, you can play with them to see what is the best way to show the information. Thanks, Pei > Thanks, > ~Aki > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Pei Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ben, > > > > It is a good start! > > > > Of course everyone else will disagree --- like what Richard did and > > I'm going to do. ;-) > > > > I'll try to find the time to provide my list --- at this moment, it > > will be more like a reading list than a textbook TOC. In the future, > > it will be integrated into the E-book I'm working on > > (http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/gti-summary). > > > > Compared to yours, mine will contain less math and algorithms, but > > more psychology and philosophy. > > > > I'd like to see what Richard and others want to propose. We shouldn't > > try to merge them into one wiki page, but several. > > > > Pei > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > A lot of students email me asking me what to read to get up to speed on > AGI. > > > > > > So I started a wiki page called "Instead of an AGI Textbook", > > > > > > > http://www.agiri.org/wiki/Instead_of_an_AGI_Textbook#Computational_Linguistics > > > > > > Unfortunately I did not yet find time to do much but outline a table > > > of contents there. > > > > > > So I'm hoping some of you can chip in and fill in some relevant > > > hyperlinks on the pages > > > I've created ;-) > > > > > > For those of you too lazy to click the above link, here is the > > > introductory note I put on the wiki page: > > > > > > > > > ******** > > > > > > I've often lamented the fact that there is no advanced undergrad level > > > textbook for AGI, analogous to what Russell and Norvig is for Narrow > > > AI. > > > > > > Unfortunately, I don't have time to write such a textbook, and no one > > > else with the requisite knowledge and ability seems to have the time > > > and inclination either. > > > > > > So, instead of a textbook, I thought it would make sense to outline > > > here what the table of contents of such a textbook might look like, > > > and to fill in each section within each chapter in this TOC with a few > > > links to available online resources dealing with the topic of the > > > section. > > > > > > However, all I found time to do today (March 25, 2008) is make the > > > TOC. Maybe later I will fill in the links on each section's page, or > > > maybe by the time I get around it some other folks will have done it. > > > > > > While nowhere near as good as a textbook, I do think this can be a > > > valuable resource for those wanting to get up to speed on AGI concepts > > > and not knowing where to turn to get started. There are some available > > > AGI bibliographies, but a structured bibliography like this can > > > probably be more useful than an unstructured and heterogeneous one. > > > > > > Naturally my initial TOC represents some of my own biases, but I trust > > > that by having others help edit it, these biases will ultimately "come > > > out in the wash. > > > > > > Just to be clear: the idea here is not to present solely AGI material. > > > Rather the idea is to present material that I think students would do > > > well to know, if they want to work on AGI. This includes some AGI, > > > some narrow AI, some psychology, some neuroscience, some mathematics, > > > etc. > > > > > > ******* > > > > > > > > > -- Ben > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ben Goertzel, PhD > > > CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC > > > Director of Research, SIAI > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > "If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they > > > will surely become worms." > > > -- Henry Miller > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > agi > > > Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > > > RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > > > Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > > > > > > > > > > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > agi > > Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > > RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > > Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > > > > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > > > -- > > Aki R. 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