On Wednesday 03 September 2008, Mike Tintner wrote: > And as a matter of scientific, historical fact, computers are first > and foremost keyboards - i.e.devices for CREATING programs on > keyboards, - and only then following them. [Remember how AI gets > almost everything about intelligence back to front?] There is not and > never has been a program that wasn't first created on a keyboard. > Indisputable fact. Almost everything that happens in computers > happens via the keyboard.
http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Egan_quote > So what exactly is a keyboard? Well, like all keyboards whether of > computers, musical instruments or typewriters, it is a creative > instrument. And what makes it creative is that it is - you could say > - an "organiser." Then you're starting to get into (some well needed) complexity science. > A device with certain "organs" (in this case keys) that are designed > to be creatively organised - arranged in creative, improvised (rather > than programmed) sequences of action/ association./"organ play. Yes, but the genotype isn't the phenotype and the translation from the 'code', the intentions of the programmer and so on to the expressions is 'hard' - people get so caught up in folk psychology that it's maddening. > And an extension of the body. Of the organism. All organisms are > "organisers" - devices for creatively sequencing actions/ > associations./organs/ nervous systems first and developing fixed, > orderly sequences/ routines/ "programs" second. Some (I) say that neural systems are somewhat like optimizers, which are heavily used in compilers that are compiling your programs anyway, so be careful: the difference might not be that broad. - Bryan ________________________________________ http://heybryan.org/ Engineers: http://heybryan.org/exp.html irc.freenode.net #hplusroadmap ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=111637683-c8fa51 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
