Hi Colin, I'm not entirely sure that computers can implement consciousness. But I don't find your arguments sway me one way or the other. A brief reply follows.
2008/10/4 Colin Hales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Next empirical fact: > (v) When you create a turing-COMP substrate the interface with space is > completely destroyed and replaced with the randomised machinations of the > matter of the computer manipulating a model of the distal world. All actual > relationships with the real distal external world are destroyed. In that > circumstance the COMP substrate is implementing the science of an encounter > with a model, not an encounter with the actual distal natural world. > > No amount of computation can make up for that loss, because you are in a > circumstance of an intrinsically unknown distal natural world, (the novelty > of an act of scientific observation). > . But humans don't encounter the world directly, else optical illusions wouldn't exist, we would know exactly what was going on. Take this site for example. http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/ It is impossible by physics to do vision perfectly without extra information, but we do not do vision by any means perfectly, so I see no need to posit an extra information source. Will ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=114414975-3c8e69 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
